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Comment by 8620

This is by far the most confusing item I have ever come across. The pattern dropped for my pally in Zanger out of a lock box. Now, consider the stats on this. It increases def rating and makes the wearer immune as a chance on hit. What mail wearing class would use this? This is another sign that shamans were meant to tank but never given the talents or armor to back it up. This is a vestigial item that isn't worth the mats to make it.

Comment by Thottbot

lvl 60 shaman here. I just got this armor today and I have been running some tests and observations and here are some thoughts thus far:

1st) when this armor procs vs any mellee character it esentially turns all your spells into uninteruptable cast spells for 10 seconds (this includes a free first aid if you want to save mana). That means that you can cast yoru large heals recast your totems recast your lightning shield all while invulnerable. the big winner here is the uninterupted big heal.

2nd) when this armor procs it does not get rid of snaring effects (like paladin immunity does). however when a mob knocks you off your mount and you are "dazed" it does get rid of dazing effects. immuntiy does not take you out of combat.

3rd) This one is obvious here but you are going to take a huge hit to your stat points equiping this thing. I used to use Dream Walker armor and lets just assume for arguements sake that the spirit is useless. I still lost 37 stat points. This is just something to consider because now it puts extra pressure on me to make the rest of my gear Ideal (less wiggle room when it comes to stats now)

4th) Immunity does not go away when you cast stuff however it does go away when you mellee hit. This does not mean however that this armor is useless vs chars that you are meleeing. What it does mean is that it tips the scale in favor of REALLY slow weapons such as Arcanite reaper. this fits my style of play quite nicely as i much prefer slower harder hitting weapons for the burst DPS with WF and becuase in real ganking/duel situations people joust instead of stand there whacking at each other so weather you use fast or slow weapon you still only get one hit in at a time anyways.

5th) Thus far I been able to duel warriors and rogues without a shield with this armor (i dont think they were necessarily top players though and i need to test this more). Its great when a rogues super fast 2 hander dagger proc the armor right after cheap shot and they waste all their charge ups and skills while you sit there safely (this armor really is the bane of all rogues). Against warriors the armor does not proc as much due to jousting techniques and slower harder hitting weapons (you are simply taking less, but stronger hits so you have less of a chance to proc it). However, the +20 defense skill does indeed make you more difficult to snare so that charge attack doesnt seem to be snaring me as much making my kiting job a lot easier (even without shield). Furthermore, if the armor does proc I can just give myself a nice big fat heal (not wasting my NS) Im not so sure I can get away with no shield vs better warriors however (i need to test this a bit more)

6th) this armor procs a lot. In real life 5% is nothing. In blizzard games 5% is more like guarantee at least one proc per fight.

7th) hunters should think twice before making this armor because Im unsure if shooting rifle will take away the immunity effect. Shaman on the otherhand can still be threat with just casting. In fact the 2 classes that you need this armor the most vs (warriors and ganking rogues) you want to kite anyways so you arent gonna be swinging your weapon until you go in for the final kill. Hunters can utilize this armor by giving them an uninterupted first aid, resummon a pet, and set up

8th) the one thing i hate about duels is the gear modification and tweaking classes go through to beat their opponent (shamans are a good example of this) Its jsut not practical to have time to change trinkets and gear around (weapons can use a macro though but its more to keep track of) . this armor is the only hope that a 2 handed weapon weilding shaman can have vs warrior and rogues. Im not sure as to how effective you can be without a shield yet as i have only dueled a handful of people thus far since i got the armor.

well thats my input.
thanks
tamerlane

Comment by Thottbot

If some people didn't think it was worth before, now it's definitely worthless, a 3 secs procs with a chance to proc only once every 30 secs, even for an overpowered class, i feel bad for the shamans who had all the trouble to make this item, after all, i'm a warrior with 445 of defense, i'm also gonna feel hard the nerf, after all the trouble i had to gather my tank gear.

Blizzard sucks...

Comment by Thottbot

I was wondering if this was good for a warrior in Molten Core or something (im no warrior right now but I have a warrior main) if you get hit and become immune to attacks? just wanna know thanks.

Comment by Thottbot

Well i bought this a couple of months back. and sadly i hardly use it, melee atack' well in pvp u hardly die from melee attacks, as we all know, besides dropping the flag in wsg when this thing proc's " what the f' are u doing" u read in raid chat , . As for agro,u lose it, i had the unfortunate need to tank in brd the other day and i thought' " what a good opp to use this item' LOL, i lost agro and people died' anyways' the 30 bars alone needed to make this is a joke' take my advice, only get it if someone made it, realized the crap they made and sell it cheap' " raises hand" i got it cheap considering the mats, but on hindsight' the only thing going for it is its purple, lmao.Blizz realy needs to up the ante on this thing , not nerfing it' The mats alone....omg' anyway, the only people that will say good things bout this item , are the people trying to sell it to you or make it for u for a price' anyways , good luck all'!

Comment by Thottbot

This looks nice on my Night Elf Warrior Female, it was a gift from a guildie. Not sure if he knew it would cause aggro drop in PvE... or cause a dropped flag in WSG

But it's great for fashion, and not bad at all when grinding difficult mobs.
I know it's nerfed very badly and the mats needed to make this item are ridiculous considering what it does, but I still could see a good case for shamams to wear it. I mean it's an easy fix for low armor rating. I think it's still an epic quality item, just not epic to the extent that it once was.

Comment by Thottbot

Now its not worth a damn.

3sec shield and can only be shielded once every 30 sec, I prefered the way it was in beta... but I very much liked the way it was before the last nerf.The 10 sec shield was amazing...

As of now leave this Invulnerable mail alone, its not worth all the ressouces it takes to make.

Comment by Thottbot

well with the expansion out this piece of gear as well as many other once unique items in wow are very obsolete, but the memories of items like this will live on..

Comment by Allakhazam

In current pvp honor system, having this turn on while having several alliance melee characters hit you is priceless. Just stand there and laugh as a shaman shields like a pally. Yep it sucks.

It's true the mats for it are expensive, but it is worth it for a range spec'ed hunter or a shaman.

Invulnerable Mail In Action.

Edited, Sun May 1 06:21:44 2005

Comment by Allakhazam

Would this be a viable option for a warrior.I know its mail armor, and if u melee the protection shield goes away but if it blocks just a few hits before it disappears then it seems like it would be a beautiful tanking option. plus the AC is as high as most plate BP's

Comment by Allakhazam

If you PVP, this is the armor you have to have if you're shaman. It's worth the effort.

Comment by Allakhazam

hey i was wondering if this is any good for shammies despite the mats that are needed.reason why im asking is because it has alot of armor defense and the proc is quite good for those lesser healing waves if ure under heavy atack u dont want interruptions.its like a much gayer version of natures swftness.im just wondering

Comment by Allakhazam

Dropped off Anvil....
Not worth making.... reagents are waaaaaay to expensive for what this gives.

Comment by Allakhazam

When I first heard about the nerf, it didnt sounds as terrible to me as it did to others, but when I now read on the tip I think WHY o hell WHY is this still an epic?

These equip effects are quality of green crap, so its only the AC that makes it from a lv 50 green to a lvl 57 epic?

But except this, you gotta love 1.7 especially when you are a hunter

Comment by Allakhazam

This does not just stop physical damage like the desription says. I was dueling a guildmate and this must have procced because she was immune to the next few spells I had cast.

Comment by Allakhazam

One of my shaman friends on Eredar was wearing this in Warsong when 5 rogues jumped out and started wailing on him. The thing procced almost constantly because of their fast hit rate and he just stood there laughing his ass off until a mage came over and aoed all 5 to death.

Comment by Allakhazam

plans dropped 2 ubrs raids in a row for my roomie. he got one and is willing to make. alliance. gorgonnash.

Comment by Allakhazam

I managed to get one of these made for my 60 shaman. This bp looks decent but it really is crazily good. The 5% is really a passive on hit to create a shield that lasts for about 7-10 seconds stopping all melee attacks. If you melee it comes out though. This doesn't matter though because during this period you can shock for free dmg, lightning bolt, and heal to full health. Overall, worth the 800 or what ever the insane mats cost me total.

Comment by Allakhazam

I create Arcanite bars, on Aggramar on the European servers, for a flat fee of 5g - if you're trying to make this and want a regular supply I'm willing to negotiate a discount. /w Eric, if I'm on, or send me a mail and I'm sure to reply soon.

Comment by Allakhazam

Whoa... totally telling our shaman about this one.

Comment by Allakhazam

As a hunter, I would buy this. Granted it would be near impossible to buy unless it was from a guild member. In any event, DAMN! Speaking of guilds i should probably get into one.

Comment by Allakhazam

30x arcanite bar.. that's 900g, 6x diamond is about 400g. Take forever to make one of this, i would sell it over 4000g for sure.

Comment by Allakhazam

Is the effect dispellable? (purge, priest dispell, etc)..
and;
Does the hit that "procs" the effect get "deflected" itself? (which would make the armor, at the very least, give you 5% more survivability vs melee classes.)

Comment by Allakhazam

got the plans on nathrezim server

pst haulass for info :)

Comment by Allakhazam

I am now making these in Thunderlord, will craft them for 100g if you have mats... send tell I probly have some with me. I'll be making one to put in Gadget AH so you shammies can have some courage and stay in Alterac and not just quit the battle.

Comment by Allakhazam

Hmmm I got these from a guildy tonight. I play on the Earthen Ring (EU) server. So whisper me if you want them and we could work something out, Horde and alliance alike. Whisper Lithandrill.

Comment by Allakhazam

I am a 60 hunter with this. Takes a while to farm the mats but if you dont rush it the time is no big deal. When it procs you can use any ranged ability. Non-mele attacks will go through it but since most castes ride the zerg wave with their warriors you die instantly anyway. The proc is fairly regular but totaly unpredictable. Its not something to count on but a good escape method with aspect of the cheeter handy. I have found its worth it and enjoy shooting from under a bubble.

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Invulnerable Mail

Item Level 63
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Chest	Mail

554 Armor
Durability 140 / 140

Requires Level 57
Equip: When struck in combat has a 5% chance to make you invulnerable to melee damage for 3 sec. This effect can only occur once every 30 sec. (Proc chance: 5%, 30s cooldown)
Equip: Increased Defense +13.

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