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1.	To Ironforge for Yagyin's Digest
2.	The Star, the Hand and the Heart
3.	Forbidden Knowledge

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Comment by skyoverheaven

The Star of Xil'yeh comes from Grel'borg the Miser (https://www.wowhead.com/classic/npc=2417), a named Ogre that patrols around the Alterac Mountains (where all the higher level elite 37-40 ogres are -- you can find him walking from the "town hall" type building to the "castle" building. Several quests involve killing Grel'borg, so don't be surprised to find other people also hunting him down at the same time.

The Hand of Dagun comes from Dagun the Ravenous (https://www.wowhead.com/classic/npc=2937), a named water giant that is summoned on an island to the north of Theramore. You will know it's the right island when you see a small glowy orb on an altar. To summon Dagun, you need to kill the Mirefin Oracles for a quest item called "Enchanted Sea Kelp" -- it only drops from the oracles and may take a while (it's always taken me at least ten minutes of killing to get it on all of my alts). Once you have the Sea Kelp, you click on the altar and Dagun will rise up from the sea.

Finally, the Legacy Heart comes from Mogh the Undying (https://www.wowhead.com/classic/npc=1060), a named troll in central Stranglethorn Vale (you can find him in some ruins directly south of the Mosh'Ogg Ogre Mound). I believe that he is the hardest to finish (unless in a group) since he's surrounded by many mobs that also respawn fairly quickly. Either bring a friend or two or be 44+, because it's pretty hellish clearing when you're underlevel and soloing.

Comment by Droffats

What level do you have to be to solo this?

Comment by Thottbot

The Star: Grel'borg the Miser, in the Ruins of Alterac
The Hand: Dagun the Ravenous, Dustwallow Marsh
The Heart: Mogh the Undying, Stranglethorn Vale

Comment by Thottbot

I'm a lvl 47 pally. I took a clanny lvl 38 warlock with me to help him get it done also, but I could have completed it solo easy, all 3 of them. I completed them in order on the letter, from killing the Alterac one 1st, then Dagun 2nd, then the troll in Stranglethorn Vale 3rd, this is how I did it:

Alterac - Just went it, killed Ogres to help clannie complete couple quests, then proceeded to kill him and 3 other Ogres at the same time very easy.

Dagun - This one I hated. We killed 100's of these little freaking Murlocs. Killed them all around the alter so we didn't have to clear it afterward. We then summoned him, and took the 43 Elite Giant out pretty easy.

Stranglethorn Vale - My clanny left to for life issues, so I started this solo. I approached the ruins where he's at, killed a number of trolls leading up to him. And then I joined up with a 43 mage to help him get it also. We just cleared out everything around him, then took out 44 elite troll and the 2 that is with him.

So, I would say that most could solo this at or above 47+ pretty easy, that is for a warrior/pally. Don't know about others, because they do good damage. So depends on class what you can solo I think, but you never know.

Comment by Thottbot

The Altar is at 59, 10
This is also where the most Murlocs are found, and it doesnt take long at all to get the kelp.
The Giant is 43 Elite with no special powers.

Comment by Thottbot

Orcales that drop kelp are lv37/38, so I suggest farm them when you around lv45, would be good exp/drops.
At lv50 or so it'll be easy to beat all 3 bosses, you can go back to dugun.
If you farm for kelp at lv50, you cannot get exp from kill mirefin oracles.

Comment by Thottbot

I stupidly deleted the insturctions by mistake could someone tell me where the guys are - i know where the ogre is in alterac but apart from that..

Comment by Thottbot

Grel'borg the Miser (40,48) Alterac Mountains
Mogh the Undying (48, 44) Stangelthorn Vale
Dagon the Ravenous (59,09) Dustwallow Marsh

Me 47 Hunter and 43 Priest do it alone

Comment by Thottbot

i killed the silver elite Burgle Eye and got the kelp at 58,8

Comment by Thottbot

Grel'borg the Miser (36,53) Alterac Mountains

Not what you read above. He is in keep, at doorway.

Comment by Thottbot

I was absolutely convinced this drop was bugged. I was about to abandon the quest and low and behold, it FINALLY dropped.

To put this into perspective, this is what I ended up with when the kelp finally dropped.

- 77 Fish Oils
- 74 Shiny Fish Scales
- 44 Thick Murloc Scales
- 20 Junk vendor items

Took a few hours overall, killing non-stop. (47 Druid)

Anyway, good luck with this one guys.

Comment by Thottbot

Literally took 1hour.
After reading these posts, grinding non-stop and thinking about how fat I have gotten in the past year from playing wow I was ready to do a different quest.
Low and behold it finally dropped. Don't give up grinding!... Unless you have a life or something

Comment by Thottbot

at 63.17

Comment by Thottbot

The silver elite named Burgle Eye drops the Enchanted Kelp to summon Dagun at around 58,8.

Comment by Thottbot

Grel'borg the Miser (?, ?) Alterac Mountains

I started in the Ruins of Alterac, Grel'borg the Miser. He's RED! He moves from the Town Hall to the Castle. I finished him off pertty easily. When I entered the ruins, I spotted Grel'borg, and aggro'ed, so I watched him walk off. I did find him just inside the castle door off to the left.

Mogh the Undying (48, 44) Stangelthorn Vale

Mogh has some body guards and is a little harder to kill. A warrior and I fininshed him off and his 2 body guards. Not that hard with two people. Note: He regens, so unless you can deal out the damage. Good luck.

Dagon the Ravenous (59, 9) Dustwallow Marsh

We got to the island and had to sweep it twice before the "Mirefin Oracle" dropped the Kelp that we needed. Place the Kelp on the alter and Dagon comes out of the water from the beach. Another target that's easy to kill.

Comment by Thottbot

Mogh the Undying (48, 44) Stangelthorn Vale
is hardest one.. couldn't solo him at 44 warlock.
He heals his guards too, so eliminating step by step is not possible.

And the ona in murlock isle is most time consuming.. i mean to find thing to activate altar and to get boss appear.

Easiest is boss in alterac mountains.

Comment by Thottbot

I soloed this today, but not without problems. After trying two times I re-thought my strategy, and took him down in flames :). I did it like this: Cast sheep on the caster besides him, rapidlay shoot a fireball in Mogh�s face, cast counterspell on him, lock him and the minion in place and continue pounding on Mogh. After a few more seconds he falls to the earth in a burning spectacle leaving his helpless minion behind. Kill him to if u like, or spare him if thats your cup of tea :P
Also advisable is to clean up a bit before you start. Also loc is confirmed at 48, 44.

I�m a 48 mage btw so if you are a bit higher level than 44 it obviosly helpes... Good luck to all :)

Comment by Thottbot

The Alter is located at 59, 9 and there are enough Murloc Oracles around it that I went straight in without the kelp and got the drop while clearing around the Alter. Solo'd as Lvl. 46 Pally with no difficulty

Comment by Thottbot

(48 Pally)In the middle of this quest took me the better part of an hour to find the Kelp. After that, the giant was easy. In Fact, I had to keep it from running by using Judgment of Justice. Like earlier post, I would say get the kelp in a earlier level and solo the quest about 47+.

Keep on Flyin Mighty Eagleknight!

Comment by Thottbot

Star of Xil'yeh: Alterac Mountains 35:54 (Red Ogre patroling in the fortress)

Hand of Dagun: Dustwallow marsh 59:9 (kill mirefin oracle to you find the sea kelp)

The Legacy Heart: Stranglethorn vale 47:44 (Big Troll near the campfire)

Hope it helps someone.

Comment by Thottbot

Star of Xil'yeh - Grel'borg the Miser
(40,48) Alterac Mountains.
Hand of Dagun - Dagun the Ravenous
(59,09) Dustwallow Marsh.
The Legacy Heart - Mogh the Undying
(48,44) Stranglethorn Vale.

Comment by Thottbot

Solo'd this guy with my 43 mage.. needed one sup health potion..

took over an hour to get the kelp.. stupid oracles.. i had started to wondere if deleting the guys note was the cuase for not getting it, but eventually i got it so much not have any influence.

Comment by Thottbot

Getting the Hand

Go to the island in Dustwallow Marsh 59,9, kill the oracles (it can take some time) and get the enchanted kelp.

Stand near the alter (with a large ball sitting on it), and right click on the enchanted kelp; this will cause Dagun the Ravenous to spawn (he is a giant who walks out of the water and is visible from the alter).

Kill Dagun for the hand.

Good luck... and thanks to all contributors above.

Comment by Thottbot

I was having trouble with Mogh until i used mind control on her and killed minion and troll with her shadow blasts then got to finsih her off easy as she had no no mana left ..piece of cake for 45 priest

Comment by Allakhazam

I had to kill 18 Oracles to get an Enchanted seaweed to drop. I then went to the isle and cleared it back to front - that is i cleared the side Dagun does not come up on first and the side he comes up on last. When he showed up he was a 43 elite and i soloed him with HP to spare as a 47 warrior (no impressive feat there). Thing is, while i was clearin another enchanted sea Kelp dropped and I (of course) could NOT pick it up as it is a unique item - BUT as soon as i popped my kelp on the alter i picked it up for insurance as this was my second go round with Mr Dagun.
As i believe others have said BE CERTAIN to clear the isle of murlocks - especially oracles - before u summon him.

oh - and good luck

Comment by Allakhazam

We also cleared the Oracles off the island several times, before disbanding. After killing 5 each separately, one of us got it.

Comment by Allakhazam

AoE killed these guys (47 mage) till one dropped. 2 dropped in a row. Dagun fairly easy too. no pots, not gems, not evocation.

Comment by Allakhazam

can anyone pls say where the each item is specifically? tnx:)

Comment by Allakhazam

Mine came from the group of 3 oracles near the alter.. I did of course clear the group twice(and the hole damn island too)..took about 25 minutes forit to drop. Could be that you have to kill one of the oracles at the alter before the "special placeholder" oracle spawns. Some rare mobs can work this way.

Comment by Allakhazam

I was grouped up with a couple of people to do this quest on Suramar, and we ganked 4 islands of murlocks (concentrating on the Oracles) over and over and over and over again with no Enchanted Sea Kelp, for about 30 mins. I had run out of time, so we de-grouped, but I killed an oracle on the way off the island with the altar on it and it dropped the Kelp.

That must be some kind of glitch, if you ask me. If you have trouble getting the drop and you are in a group, try de-grouping and killing things solo. Other than that, not a hard quest, just annoying.

Comment by Allakhazam

I got the kelp off the third oracle didn't bother clearing the island. Slaughtered the giant as a 45 warlock with a felhunter out cuz there was a stealthed druid near by so I gave up all my damage bonus (demo specced) and just killed him with dots. -yawn-

Comment by Allakhazam

I got my drop off the far side of the isle, off a rare called Burgle Eye. He dropped a nice set of shoulders as well

Comment by Allakhazam

Got the kelp after about a hour.. cleared both of the islands several times.

Comment by Allakhazam

Have to agree this thing is sort an interesting quest I guess, but very much not worth it -- and the Dagun encounter is buggy. Kept resetting on me.

Comment by Allakhazam

Ok first i went to Theramore to get sea weed 63-28.Then to the alter 58-9 Dagun gave me his hand, no buggs was np at lvl 49.Next to Alterac mountains 39-53 Grel'borg kicked down the star.Finnally to Stranglethorn vale 45-45 were i took my prize from Mogh

Comment by Allakhazam

Took me 17 oracles to get the kelp.

All green mobs, so it was pretty relaxed.

Soloed the big guy as a lvl 45 pally.

Comment by Allakhazam

Soloed all 3 parts as a 44 shadow priest. Hardest was stranglethorn part,But did it by clearing all mobs around boss till just boss and minion and mob closest to him were left, then i focused all my dmg on the remaining add till it died then ran away. After agro was lost went back and used mind control on the boss to kill the healer minion. then used swp and wand to kill the boss. took a few deaths learning it but it went ok in the end. Hope it helps

Comment by Allakhazam

I did this quest with several chars, on a few I even stopped half-way through... Read all the previous posts: For a level 44 quest the reward is just not worth the effort. Even IF you are pvp'ing it has at the most questionable worth, I used it about one or two times in BG's. Also, when finishing the quest, with all other things you want to do, it was green or even grey already.

Summary: It just is not worth it all. Do some grinding or enjoy doing other quests - this just holds you up.

My 2 cents.

Comment by Allakhazam

bonegrip wont talk to me what are the prereqs for this quest?

Comment by Allakhazam

1. Dagun's Hand - drops off the big elite giant and is summoned by placing enchanted sea kelp on the altar on the Mirefin Island's altar. The Altar is located on the 3rd or so isle north of Theramore. the sea kelp drops off the mirefin oracles. Warrior class - was pretty difficult for me to solo. He was lvl 43 elite to me and I was lvl 46 priest.

2. Mogh's Legacy Heart - drops off Mogh the Undying (troll boss) located in the troll ruins on the tiered area south of the ogres. You'll know if you're in the right area because the outermost guards in the ruins are all troll hunters with panther pets. The pets do not run but will keep attacking if you kill the hunter troll. If you pull it just right you can pull the nearby trolls one at a time and take out Mogh by himself. Mogh is paladin class and throws lightning at you. Mogh has a human minion so set a pet on the minion and just take potshots at Mogh. He will waste his mana on trying to fry you with lightning.

3. Grel'borg's Star - drops off Grel'borg (ogre boss in alterac mountain ruins). He spawns in the castle keep and walks out the front gate to the builldings and returns to the keep. He walks this route regularly. Take out a few ogres near the side of the castle and pull Grel'borg to the cleared area and you should be able to fight him by himself. He was by far the easiest to kill. He wastes his mana (paladin class) throwing lightning bolts at you.

Edited, Thu Jul 21 20:21:33 2005

Comment by Allakhazam

anyone know the co-ordinates for the heart?

Comment by Allakhazam

5600 XP at lvl 43.

Comment by Allakhazam

Killing those annoying oracles for the kelp and the elite was pretty easy. The Ogre in alterac is easy too if u dont get any adds. But with mogh i had to get a 60 mage to help. the stupid trolls spawn like tram rats!u gotta be super quick and kill everything and then kill him. while eveything else respawns.i was rdy to kill myself lol.

Comment by Allakhazam

Make sure and kill the Oracles around the alter SOLO! It does not work in a party. After a party member gets the kelp, re-team summon and kill the mob. You will be able to share in the kill. We found this out after about an hour.

Comment by Allakhazam

I just can't seem to find this Ginant that's suppose to be in dustwillow, can someone tell me where to find him?

Comment by Allakhazam

IF you go to the island EAST of where the altar is i got mine on second drop off a oracle
hope this helps

Comment by Allakhazam

Just as a side note, Dagun doesn't come out of the altar even though it starts sorta sparkling and then like, freezes and looks like its bugged. he walks around from the side towards you.

Comment by Allakhazam

Solo with 44 lvl Hunter.Easy quest.

Comment by Allakhazam

Concerning Dagun and the oracles, go North from Theramore along the shore, the first Island off that shore is where I found most oracles (there arent many of them), took me 3 kills to get the Kelp.
The Altar is placed on the northern most island in the map.
Kill all the surrounding Murlocs before summoning Dagun.
Hes 43 elite giant and I was able to kill him as 45 NE Warrior, had to use bandages to kill him though (Slowed him and ran off to heal, since I had no potions=)
Have fun with it!

Comment by Allakhazam

I cleared the 'Alter' Island 4 times before reading these comments and then tried out Ysbels' suggestion and left my group. Got the Kelp on the very next kill as solo :|

Comment by Allakhazam

Ask yourself before you start this if you REALLY want the reward. I've been at the Mirefins now for 1.5 hours and am getting very frustrated, they are grey to me at 48 so i'm not even gaining exp.

I started this quest cause I was doing other quests that were sending me all over the two continents so i figured why not it will be a fun new experience....4 hours later I am now a very crabby Suffeli. Time to abandon....after a few more kills hehe

: No freaking joke after hitting post msg the next kill i get drops the seaweed. I did however want to post anyways because it can take a very very long time to get this item to drop. Dropped at 59,11

Edited, Mon Feb 27 01:33:17 2006

Comment by Allakhazam

i have been killing for hrs and still nothing i have cleared the islands about 25 times now and still no sea kelp, what is goin on? grrrrrrr

Comment by Allakhazam

You guys whine too much about the drops. It's dropped first time on all my characters while soloing it.

Comment by Allakhazam

it jus tix you off how WoW sometimes messes with your head.... i sure tix me off ill tell you that! i spent hours, as it seemed, searchin for the stupid kelp and with no luck. i turn back and head home and a stupid oracle aggros me and i kill him and wht do ya know! the stupid kelp drops! but ya the spawn rate of the kelp is like .00000001% but it does spawn. just keep killin oracles where the altar is and it will finally drop. the guy is ez to kill... he is a giant so one whack gets alot out of ya... i had ma pet on him until my nightfall kicked in and then it was his demise to come after me.

Comment by Allakhazam

I received 5600 experience points. No change in faction.

Comment by Allakhazam

The Hand was easy to get if you ignore the part about getting the kelp. Took forever for me (solo) to get the freaking kelp. Soloed Dagun easily as a Paladin, lvl 47.

The Star was also easy to solo. Managed to find the guy right when I entered the ruins.

The Heart was a pain in the ass. It's up on a little hill in Zul Mamwe, and the guy is surrounded by creeps that are easy to pull one at a time.

However, the last creep next to him cannot be pulled alone, and Mogh has a human minion that is a healer.

Lvl 49 paladin, and I couldn't take them out. I targeted the little human healer first, but died to Mogh and the other creep. And when you die, Mogh resummons his minion.

tried this 3 times, and then managed to party with 2 mages. Cleared him in less than 5 minutes. Yay, mages.

Edited, Mon Sep 12 02:34:08 2005

Comment by Allakhazam

well i got the kelp after about 5 hrs of killing, summond Dagon and killed him easily as a lvl 47 druid. was it all worth it? probably not but o'well i did it anyways

Comment by Allakhazam

Is it just me, or does everything about this quest line scream HP Lovecraft?

Comment by Allakhazam

I spent an hour with a friend last night trying to get the kelp. No success, of course.

I went back alone, today, and killed 3 oracles. The kelp was on one of the bodies. Then, and this is why I'm posting... I got ANOTHER ONE while clearing the island.

*headdesk*

Comment by Allakhazam

I wiped the island clean about three times before i got the drop. Ironically right in front of the Altar.

Comment by Allakhazam

Thanks everyone for their posts. Very helpful. Just did this as a 44 Pally and only took me approx. 45 min total. Got drop on the alter island about the 10th oracle. Then I cleared the area. Once I summoned Dugan I judged him with Seal of Light and Hammer of Justice. Stayed right on top of him so he kept backing up and used Seal of Command until he was almost done, then used Seal of Justice so he would not run away. Had to heal twice, once using protection. Thanks again for all the advice.

Comment by Allakhazam

I'm saying don't do it alone, not cause it's hard, but cause droprate is ridiculously low. I've killed 140 Oracles around the Altar and still no drop.

If any of you alliance on Burning Steppes find Enchanted Sea Kelp please send me message so i can join you to overkill mob.

Name is Prettee of char who has quest.

Edited, Apr 1st 2007 6:02pm by youniverse

Comment by Allakhazam

i am lvl 47 and that damn bonegrip guy doenst give me the quest >_<

and thottbot doesn't say anything about pre-quests *grr* damn that mr. bonegrip

Comment by Allakhazam

Grel'borg the Miser (40,48) Alterac Mountains
Mogh the Undying (48, 44) Stangelthorn Vale
Dagon the Ravenous (59,09) Dustwallow Marsh

Note: Orcales that drop kelp (plant). You have to sum in altar, than the giant elite murlock comes.

Comment by Allakhazam

Has anyone found Grelborg yet? If so where does he spawn. I've combed Alterac mountains for hours with no sign of him.

Comment by Allakhazam

I've been killing oracles for 30 minutes and none has dropped yet. I will keep killing em, easy exp if nothing else.

Fendel, Priest on Scarlet---

Comment by Allakhazam

Don't do this quest. It's absolutely miserable. I've spent over an hour now trying to get the Enchanted Sea Weed to drop so I can summon Degun. I'm just giving up now, with hardly any money or experience to even show for it the last hour.

Comment by Allakhazam

BLA BLA BLA... just leave cords!

Comment by Allakhazam

Ok...Here is my guide as I complete this quest. First of all, I read all of the posts and found a few flaws, thus why I decided to post this. So far, I have obtained the Hand of Dagun...I did this first as the other posts seemed to make this sound difficult...it isn't. I did this as a 47 shadowpriest and did is solo with the buffs of shadowform, fortitude, Inner fire, and the occassional Power Word Shield to buy time to heal myself.

Ok....the enchanted sea kelp...didnt seem that difficult to obtain. You have to clear the mobs around the alter before summoning Dagun...in just doing this act I got 3 drops of the kelp (drops off Oracles only). I picked up one and used it on the alter once the immediate surrounding area was cleared.

Dagun comes from the beach behind the hut closest to the alter itself. I died in my first attempt in killing him, but that was because I hadn't done this quest before and got a few adds when I pulled him towards me - please note, I did not pull him the second time. Once back, I had to reclear a few of the repops, cleared a path to the beach and got another kelp from one of the repops, good thing as the others had rotted before I got back. I used it on alter and rushed the beach behind the hut and attacked Dagun in the water - I noticed this prevented from getting adds too.

I started my attack with Vamparic Embrace, Pain, Mind Blast (only once to save mana) and kept attacking with a shadow spell wand....repeated pain as needed and kept using the wand.

I used shield and full heals in that order to heal myself....saving desperate prayer when my mana was less than 30%. I used the last of my mana to do my second mind blast and killed him. Seemed much easier than others had indicated on their posts.

I'll post how I did the other parts of this quest as I complete them

NOTE: I hunted for seakelp on the other islands with a 52 druid....no drop in 45 minutes...went back to the "alter island" (my nickname for it), dropped 4 in clearing the alter of surrounding oracles - I want to say luck, but the drop rate for two characters in the same area seem to show a preferential dropsite for the kelp in my opinion

Comment by Karatar

Comment for Classic:
The Hand of Dagun part of the quest might be bugged if you died. Try relogging.

Took me 30 mins of full clearing the murlocs until I decided to relog. Then after the 6th oracle I finally got the Enchanted Sea Kelp

Comment by Clavar

An hour and a half, and no Enchanted Sea Kelp. This is ridiculous. I can't stand quests that rely on a next to impossible item drop.

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The Star, the Hand and the Heart

Return the items on the Bonegrip's Note to Gerrig Bonegrip in Ironforge.

	Star of Xil'yeh (1)
	Hand of Dagun (1)
	The Legacy Heart (1)

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Yagyin's Digest, eh? Are you starting a new chapter of us, somewhere? Never mind, it is not my place to ask.

I will help you, for I have an extra copy. We must aid each other, yes? That is how we flourish.

I require three items of power. Bring them to me and I will give you the digest.

I will not speak their names. Ears may be on us. But here, I will write them down.

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