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Post by
xaratherus
Because people raided kara in BC to see the content and have fun, as opposed to facerolling it for badges?
I call shenanigins.
I've actually gone back on my level 80 several times since WotLK came out - mostly because I thought some of the fights were fun. Same reason why I've gone back to do SSC, AQ, LBRS, UBRS, and so on - because the fights were interesting (and there was a nostalgia factor in it).
The only reason
I
raid naxx (be it 10 or 25) would be for a weapon and better trinkets.
Fixed that for you.
Post by
123238
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Post by
justinc
All of you QQ'ing are missing the bigger picture. Read the quest changes, mount and travel changes, death of twinks (no more new players getting 1 hit and saying LOLWUT? GAME IS DUMB I QUIT/unable to enjoy BGs). All of this, including the emblem changes, is to try and attract new players and give casual players something more out of the game. If you really don't like it then quit, because the changes made will bring in more money than Blizz will lose from the people quitting because they don't like it.
Edit- also as people have said, more people will be running heroics and old content, which means there's more to do now for everyone, not just casual/new players.
Post by
Murp
I just posted this, one rant because I'm sick and tired now.
http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=9521028498&postId=95198649349&sid=1#0
Post by
Dralas
I personally like and dislike the change.
Like: I can start doing heroics again for a reason rather then sit in dal trying to figure out what to do.
Dislike: Great, those days of pugging 25 man naxx are kinda wasted.
I welcome the new change though, because I play the game
for fun
. You know what fun is right?
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138584
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Post by
doublediamond410
Because people raided kara in BC to see the content and have fun, as opposed to facerolling it for badges?
I call shenanigins.
I agree with this. I didn't start raiding in TBC until the release of Quel'Danas (didn't even join WoW until Patch 2.2 or so), but I remember getting carried through Karazhan by them so they could gear up their other Lvl70 alts for token gear. Sure, it got me some nice epics, but does show a flaw in the design.
I
've actually gone back on my level 80 several times since WotLK came out - mostly because
I
thought some of the fights were fun. Same reason why
I
've gone back to do SSC, AQ, LBRS, UBRS, and so on.
Edited for emphasis. Notice the lack of "we" or even "most Lvl80s," since you cannot officially speak for everyone.
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279911
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Post by
FlatGreenWind
My perspective: I've got an 80 Shaman who's working thru ulduar 10 at mimiron and ulduar 25 at hodir. I've got one piece tier 8 for both my resto and enhance sets, and the rest is a mix of 200-226 ilevel gear from naxx/valors/uld etc. That's my main, and I've raided and scrounged thru heroics and above for a long time to get where i'm at with my guild and gear-wise. I've also got 2 other 80's who i play and try and gear up here and there when i can.
i heard this news about heros and up dropping conquest and I flipped, it's a horrible idea imho. I understand blizz wants to make heros viable again, but to drop conquest emblems from h vh? that's like gettin paid 30 bucks an hour to sit at home and answer calls from your friends; ridiculous.
Even if I want to gear my alts faster and easier than my main, I dont want them to run heros for a week or two and be upto par with my shammy that took months of raids to establish. If people cant catch up to those that were ulduar ready when it hit, oh well, thats fine. There isnt a reason for people to have to 'catch up' to anyone else. Should we help new businesses 'catch up' to other older businesses? no.
If people can't find enough to do while outside raids when they're 80 then add more content, more for us to do, not the same old stuff with better rewards.
Meh, I have a feeling it wont hit live as is anyway, im hoping it gets toned down to valors at most.
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358392
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Post by
skumbananer
hahaha lovely. Imagine pug tanks that gear the normal way, doing quests and normals, and buying the odd fine piece from AH trying to get into heroics.
"Omg not a full T8,5! U nedd 35k health atleast for uk hero!"
I think Blizzard is intentionally repeating the mistake they made from TBC, to keep people interested after Coliseum and all this new free-loot, we will soon have ICC out...and we will be kept occupied with that until Christmas 2009, when world of warcraft - South Seas and Emerald Dreams comes.
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132894
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Post by
faeofwind
My perspective: I've got an 80 Shaman who's working thru ulduar 10 at mimiron and ulduar 25 at hodir. I've got one piece tier 8 for both my resto and enhance sets, and the rest is a mix of 200-226 ilevel gear from naxx/valors/uld etc. That's my main, and I've raided and scrounged thru heroics and above for a long time to get where i'm at with my guild and gear-wise. I've also got 2 other 80's who i play and try and gear up here and there when i can.
i heard this news about heros and up dropping conquest and I flipped, it's a horrible idea imho. I understand blizz wants to make heros viable again, but to drop conquest emblems from h vh? that's like gettin paid 30 bucks an hour to sit at home and answer calls from your friends; ridiculous.
Even if I want to gear my alts faster and easier than my main, I dont want them to run heros for a week or two and be upto par with my shammy that took months of raids to establish. If people cant catch up to those that were ulduar ready when it hit, oh well, thats fine. There isnt a reason for people to have to 'catch up' to anyone else. Should we help new businesses 'catch up' to other older businesses? no.
If people can't find enough to do while outside raids when they're 80 then add more content, more for us to do, not the same old stuff with better rewards.
Meh, I have a feeling it wont hit live as is anyway, im hoping it gets toned down to valors at most.
i completely agree with you on this!
also, for those who are telling everyone to stop QQing because their hard work shouldn't have been "work"...
how fun is it to play a game that is too easy? i think this is the point.
where is the challenge?
were you really ever drawn to WoW because it was easy to play?
now, buffing up the mount speeds and availability, that i can understand. pre-BC is barren nowadays and the quicker new players or alts can get through it, the better. but the WotLK changes are a little out of line, imo.
totally agree that it'll probably get changed. just look at the rage it generates!
Post by
yawgmoth
And as someone else said, it's going to !@#$ me off when I see scrubs with similar gear to me, since I worked hard for mine, and I'm not even THAT geared yet.
This really is the worst argument. Guess what, kids! The scrubs will still be scrubs even with 2pT8 and all the other good gear. The good players will finally get the gear to be as good as they need to be in order to see progression. The good guilds will be able to do hard modes faster because thye can gear up their members a lot faster, and the scrub guilds will still be stuck farming naxx because they still won't have the coordination to do anything that takes more than "stand here, press butanz, get loot".
tl;dr: stop crying about loot because it doesn't make you any better than anyone else. the retards will do 900dps instead of 800, BFD.
Post by
skumbananer
Personally i think its too much of a good thing. Shame that heroic/naxx10 epics, and good heroic blues gets obsolete.
This would be my ideal. add heroism badge and a heroic quality epic of last boss in lvl76+ normals. 1 heroism badge 1 valor badge and 2 heroic epics of last boss in a heroic, as well as 1 heroism badge/pre-last-boss.More heroism gear to buy, why not a mainhand sword, a ranged, a polearm, some hit trinkets, resistance gear, a bag, some cooking recipes, another shield with more strength and hit and less dodge and def etc etc.
Add some more valor items, maybe some really descent stuff that is situationally really good (Like various resistance pvp sets, a expertise pvp dps set for fighting feral tanks), a load of weapons and wands.
All wotlk raids pre Ulduar now awards emblem of valor instead of emblem of heroism, 2/boss in 25man setting, and 1/boss in 10man setting. Ulduar awards same badges as now, but an additional badge/boss, and 1 badge/boss in 10man.
That would make all us noobs happy and loot crazy, without spoiling the game as much.
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Post by
lonewarrior
Playing this game for about 2 years and I for one am not happy with the dumbing down that is occurring with every patch in this game. I remember when getting Epic gear was an epic achievement and only the top guilds could actually farm places like Kara.
Those posters who say progression shouldn't be work....it's not work..it's call obstacles. Putting up challenges that players have to overcome to "earn" that gear. What Blizz is doing now is sort of like a track event that keeps removing hurdles from a race until you only have to jump one and everyone is a champ...whats the point of that!.
I sympathize with the casual/solo players..but this game is what it is..you need to put in some time and you need to participate in groups if you want the top gear..otherwise just enjoy what you can do.
Now..if its as they say.. we will be able to just string along a bunch of heroic runs to get Ulduar equivalent gear..where is the satisfaction in that progression.
Not that I was ever a big fan of the emblem series and/or the 10/25 man raids(too restrictive).
I would have preferred raids groups staggered in size(10/15/20/25)...more epic drops per raid boss and have had gear stats raid group size related.
(example epic uber tank gloves drop on 10man raid have 20 defense rating..15man raid have 25 def rating..20man have 30 def rating..etc)
Just my 2 cents.
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