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Post by
asakawa
#1 =
sticky
#2 = don't worry about SP, look for 1500 dps
minimum
on a test dummy. your raid group might have higher standards but 1500 is actually good enough.
#3 = just get to 80
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404514
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Post by
orloxgr
Why drop CoA and not drop UA? Coa is faster and a lot cheaper in mana.
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Post by
mindthegap5
normal everyday mobs can't dispell so there was no point in bringing that up. but yes UA is better but why on god's green earth does that mean you should drop CoA from your rotation? It still does damage so it might aswell be there.
Oh and the amount of mana you would save dropping the spell is tiny
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Post by
asakawa
how is mana an issue?
honestly stk###, i think you might be doing it wrong.
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Post by
asakawa
well, the most efficient way to kill things is to use CoA and corruption. it somehow gained the ridiculous name "god of death mode" (you can look it up).
CoA > corr >> tab > CoA > corr >> tab > CoA > corr >> tab > etc. > etc.
i'm not sure why you're getting so defensive. i'm well aware of all the various rotations thanks ^^
perhaps instead of lashing out you should just back off and allow the possibility that the people disagreeing with you are doing so because they are right.
this thread is a fail. the OP hasn't returned since they asked their questions and they never mentioned wanting to drop spells from their rotation. as such your suggesting (the very first thing you posted) was a bit left field.
while levelling who cares about rotations. people can do whatever they enjoy and whatever works. no point min/maxing before 80.
Post by
faia
*Sigh* I'm not sure why I'm even bothering to argue with you, you don't really seem to understand my point...
All I can say is I dropped mobs using Haunt, Corruption and UA alone, no CoA needed. I'm sorry but I know that casting CoA would not have helped me at all, guaranteed. Using CoA means it takes you that much longer to throw up Haunt/Corruption/UA on the next MOB, and since I didn't need CoA to kill the initial MOB it was NOT worth it for me. I mean most MOBS would die in under 12 seconds for christ sake! That means CoA is only doing like 30% of it's potential damage LOL you think that's worth it?
I leveld to 80 in 6 days played so I think I kinda know what I'm talking about..
no body care about that part in statment
UA got cast time that's dead DPS while CoA is instant (gbc is lower with talent and can be tabed from monster and monster) this make it better then UA when you start to pick up masses more then5 mobs and its all about preference and agree with you the UA is better when you not take a horde of mobs and most of time you only do that on Farm/Grind , but CoA is mostly used for lower Lvl when you not got UA and low sp and in Raid afflaction build as its better then CoD when glyphed +talanted
Yes, mana isn't an issue for an affliction lock either way, but why would you waste mana on something you don't need? And besides the mana, what about the GCD? That's an even bigger issue and you ignored it.. I'm sorry you are plain wrong..
GCD is lower on CoA then UA+ GCD is most of time not a issue when leveling
By your logic, why not just spam searing pain also in your rotation? mana isn't an issue and it will drop the MOB faster so it must be better! except that logic is retarted... LOL
you can if you want, it take longer to kill but still can do it if you want but rather use Shadowbolt since i get from Shadow mastery and is stronger and better in MPD or just Haunt if its of CD or go on next mob and start Dot him upp, Searing pain is more for PvP
Also, by your logic you should be using CoA in destro rotations (why not? it does damage and it's instant cast! plus the mana doesn't matter! why not have it up!) BUT if you ask any respectable destro lock they will tell you that you DON'T use CoA pretty much EVER. (CoD on boss fights, CoE or nothing on trash, fights under 1 minute)
when did the post ever stated Desto? when ever did we say desto rotatino? when did he ever said raid? we talk about UA vs CoA in leveling dont change subject, and CoA is better then CoD when glyphed and talented but its just a waste for Desto
Also will you please keep in mind I was SUGGESTING dropping CoA from his rotation IF he could drop MOBS without it. Yes some people out there don't have enough SP for this and still need to use CoA and that's FINE.. I was just trying to tell him that he MIGHT not need it and could kill MOBs more efficiently w/o it.
part i agree with you on, but can be told more nicely.
in all you both do got 2 points and is close to same, butt you forgot to mention something
how many mobs do you grab at each pull?
if you do just a few (1-5) your point is better
but if its 5+ or everydamn mob you can pass Asakawa point is better
since lower GCD on CoA vs UA +cast time as you lose damage and its start to addup if you going to pull 10 mobs or more
EDIT: lock thread as OP never did return and this go off topic
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