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Post by
Paolo
Now we're talking! (
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Shadow 2P Bonus (Vampiric Touch) - Increases the duration of your Vampiric Touch spell by 6 sec.
Shadow 4P Bonus (Mind Flay) - Increases the critical strike chance of your Mind Flay by 5%.
Healing 2P Bonus (Prayer of Mending) - Increases the healing done by your Prayer of Mending spell by 20%.
Healing 4P Bonus (Divine Aegis and Empowered Renew) - Increases the shield from your Divine Aegis and the instant healing from your Empowered Renew by 10%.
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Post by
Ethix
wow 20% on prayer of mending is a nice boost, and 10% to renew is eh but 10% on divine aegis is nice.
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Post by
Binya
Meh, the Shadow bonuses still seem sort of lame to me, but wow, the healing bonuses seem sessy. @_@ I think my Discipline set might be getting some more love in 3.2 (Divine Aegis proc off Glyph of PW:S + 4 piece bonus + PW:S= that's a fair bit of damage being absorbed there :D).
Post by
OscarDivine
The DA buff from the 4PC is definitely better than the Empowered Renew.
8k Flash Heal crit = 2400 DA ==> +10% ==>240 additional mitigation
1400 Crit Empowered Renew initial Tick ==> +10% ==> 140 additional healing
Over the course of a fight, the Disco priest will benefit far more from this bonus.
As well, the bonus applies to ALL SPELLS crit by a Disco priest but only applies to ONE spell not even used to heal more than 8-10% worth of most fights (see
this thread
). This 4PC "revision" is very heavily weighted toward Disco.
If Blizz is really married to this whole 10% DA thing, perhaps a more appropriate change for holy priests would be:
Decreases Cooldown of Guardian Spirit by 25% (which would mean if unglyphed it would go from 5 min to 3min 45 seconds if glyphed 45 seconds).
Or how about "Increases healing done by Circle of Healing by an additional 5% on targets below 50%."
What ever it is, it should cover a more widely used spell, not one that 3/4 of all raiders probably put on their back burner of filler spells to cast while you're either on the run or not taking much damage.
Post by
Aldones
I raid disc/shadow, but I was under the impression holy priests used Renew for the instant healing, the rest of the healing was more of a bonus. Also, w/ 10% more absorption to Divine Aegis, the way it reads, it could possibly mean 10% of the 30% we get, boosting us from 30-33% instead of 30-40%.
I'm assuming its 40%, and if it is, I'm willing to bet it'll get changed. With that said, full t9 will actually become very vaible for a disc priest. Especially since the 2p bonus still applies to us.
Not much to say on 20% more to PoM, it's a healing boost for both disc and holy.
As far as shadow is concerned, 6s is huge...that's increasing it's length by 40%. Thus, on a 5min 15sec fight (in theory), instead of casting 21 spells, you cast 15 spells...that's 9.5s of increased dps we'll be using on MF (roughly 3 casts), then we're also adding in 5% more crit to MF, which will ultimately be slightly more effective than it is now.
However, it wouldn't suprise me if Blizz reversed the order of the tier buffs for shadow. Nerfed the tier buff for disc and buffed the tier buff for holy.
Post by
Brokenhalo
wow 20% on prayer of mending is a nice boost, and 10% to renew is eh but 10% on divine aegis is nice.
If you're discipline, it might be worthwhile to stack two pieces of the more discipline-friendly, crit or haste-heavy and spirit-light pieces, in slot, just to get the prayer of mending bonus. The 4-piece bonus may or may not be worthwhile depending on other gear available.
Question: How would you parse the language of that set bonus?
" Increases the shield from your Divine Aegis and the instant healing from your Empowered Renew by 10%"
Would you read that to mean that Divine Aegis is getting a 10% bump as well as Empowered Renew, or would Aegis get some other, yet undisclosed bonus with the 10% going to *just* Renew?
Post by
OscarDivine
" Increases the shield from your Divine Aegis and the instant healing from your Empowered Renew by 10%"
Would you read that to mean that Divine Aegis is getting a 10% bump as well as Empowered Renew, or would Aegis get some other, yet undisclosed bonus with the 10% going to *just* Renew?
I think the way that the language currently reads, the word "Increases" modifies (describes) both "the shield" and "the instant healing" and the word "by" would also describe both. So yeah, I think it's 10% to each.
Post by
karlusdavius
Both bonuses are nice. Ive been away for a while so i didn't bother updating my thread since this one is here.
Looks nice. Stats on the armor are ok too
Post by
Aldones
If you're discipline, it might be worthwhile to stack two pieces of the more discipline-friendly, crit or haste-heavy and spirit-light pieces, in slot, just to get the prayer of mending bonus. The 4-piece bonus may or may not be worthwhile depending on other gear available.
I'm going to have to disagree...disc is all about mitigation, and it would take a crap load of stats to keep me from enjoying that much more mitigation.
I'm assuming that it gives "both," but it's depending on how your tp are spent. To recieve the DA bennifite, you obviously have to be specced into DA, and to recieve the Imp Renew bennifite, you have to be specced into Imp Renew.
Post by
PrimeSonic
Has anyone forgotten this:
Prayer of Healing: The percentage of spell power this spell gains in healing (per target) has been reduced from 80.7% to 52.6%.
Kinda makes the set bonus not feel so great when you know you'll need it just to get your PoH to heal like it use to.
Now the 4p bonus is still pretty meh for Empowered Renewed though it might be nice for Divine Aegis. Still, as it's been throughout most of Wrath, the tier sets feel dull, uninspired, and pointless.
Post by
Aldones
Bah, thanks for raining on my paraid PrimeSonic...I completely forgot about that...
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Post by
PrimeSonic
Lol, thanks Val. Guess I read that too fast. Not that I ever thought PoM was bad, but most of the time it's 75% overheal when I see it work.
These bonuses might be a little better, but they're still pretty bland.
Post by
Paolo
Well the thing that's interesting about them -- and I'm of two minds as to whether I love it or am indifferent -- is that they are not playstyle changing. Most of the bonuses will not cause you to change your existing plans, rotations, or timing. They're totally passive.
So the obvious exceptions to this are the 2pc shadow and 4pc healing (for holy priests). Having extra time on VT will force you to adjust your timing. Not a major adjustment, but it's a new rhythm. And empowered renew...this might encourage holies to spec or cast differently.
But the changes to mind flay, PoM, and Divine Aegis are simply toppers. I won't suddenly be casting more PoM to get the bonus...I'm already casting it plenty. And I'm heavily crit-stacked as disc anyway; no need to change out gems to make the most of this modest 4pc bonus. Just take the extra mitigation and we're on our way.
The healing T8 bonuses, otoh, are
completely
playstyle changing. The 2pc bonus over-encourages the use of PoH (which I now use to the point finding of myself OOM halfway through fights, tyvm blizz). And the 4pc is the source of great gnashing of teeth by holy priests trying to use their shields if there's a disc priest in the raid. Even as a shield-spamming disc, I'm very aware of my five-second bonus window.
Bliz has said that they want set bonuses to cause you to consider new rotations or spell priorities. This may just have been a defensive comment, considering how much this applies to the healing T8 set. I actually think I'll be relieved to get rid of my T8 bonuses though...I am all too aware of how powerful PoH is with the crit bonus, and I even have a timer on my screen to ensure I make the most of my 4pc shielding bonus. Yes, I think I'm pretty happy with the
nature
of the new bonuses, even if the
values
are fairly minor.
Post by
turkey
I will be weeping the moment I have to break my 4pc T8 bonus. There had better be some serious spell power on T9.
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