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Why DK's are OP and a balanced fix.
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sfagias
Blizzard said in a Blue post that Death Knights are the best class in game and tbh i bid for a million dollars that 25death knight with there army of ded can solo nax 25 because there class is in a smiply one word{JOKE} lets pop 2years behinde and tell some one imagen there will be a class does melee damage and have a Pet as will also a flying pet also it does spell damage effact making more crits with it than a caster i made a death knight and when i did ding 69 i just stop because i felt am playing a joke and the funny part is that joke kick ass any way i got one Question to ask here if the First hero class is so IMba whats the next one gona be able to do? here is what i think:
1-when ever your below 99%health you regan 100%of your enemys Health as attak powr stack by up to 100times .
Yes, DK's are OP atm and I face the truth, we need a nerf. A nerf is coming with this patch. Let's see if it does anything. Also you are talking about leveling DKs and not end game.
Yes, DKs are a joke to play while you level up especially in the blood specc where you simply can't die.
Blizzard does not balance the classes at low levels though... Tell me, do you have hard time leveling any class these days? If yes then you fail and should play something more fitting for you like tetris.
To do decent DPS in PvE or tank better you need to ditch some of the self-healing tricks that were great while leveling. While you could do hellfire ramparts with 5 DKs on the 60s now you can't do a 5 man DK instance for 80s. You clearly don't know the mechanics and want to comment saying that the class is a joke. You are wrong.
Also I can say that 25 pallies can do Naxx 25. would I be wrong? What about druids? Your post is an epic fail not only because of that but because you are talking mostly about PvE instead of PvP and because instead of proposing possible nerfs that could make the game more balanced you flame the class and make a "hillarious joke", cudos man.
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CoI, DG in a sense, CG+3x FS, SS 3x with Death Runes, constant burst from you, Gargoyle, and Ghoul, FS is not hard.
If you mean Frost Strike with that FS and Scourge Strike with that SS then this rotation is not possible to happen since you can use FS only on frost and SS Gargoyle and the ghoul constant pet if for unholy builds.
I am not arguing with you just to get some facts straight. Our burst is indeed very good.
It's not just your burst, it's the defensive CD's that you have mixed in with your consistent burst.
This is the main reason why DKs are OP. It is not CoI, CoI is just extremely annoying. This should be fixed. But in order for that to be fixed there should be many talent shifts which is very difficult to get there. don't worry Blizzard will take care of this it already has with this patch, the CDs on our defensive skills have been increased. But this also means that PvE DK tanks are going to be a bit nerfed.
Tetris is actually pretty hard once you beat like 40 levels. The blocks move down pretty fast.
hehe well then another game like tic-tac-toe. But please tell me that that guy's post is not a bit retarded.
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Lightrain
If mages wore anything other then cloth they would be outrageously OP. and of course they are squishy.. you have to catch them to do damage. as far as CC goes i wouldnt say a slow is that impresive even a slow that powerful... its not amazing CC. sure if the rogue has already used cloak of shadows and vanish.. twice... then he cant do anything about it for a minute or 2. the only problem is it doesnt prevent people from doing anything. its just annoying for mele classes.
i forgot something.... lightrain... to pull of that combo your relying on 1 of three things. first the healer doesnt have a trinket. 2nd the partner forgot how to enter the arena. or 3rd, your his partner... sence you seem to be implying this has happened to you? lol.
Hypothetical situation. However, you can pull it off if the other team doesn't have instant cast heals, and it's even rather powerful against instant cast heals as well.
You want to know the easiest one to pull off?
Hungering cold(10 seconds)+cyclone(6+3 seconds)+bash.
You must have never seen a frost DK do burst when he's got a weapon proc and is pumping 8-9k crits(6-7k to my bear). I seriously have to kite him or he kills me before my healer is out of CC.
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sfagias
Sorry, I should have clarified that I was addressing both specs. I meant to say that both Frost and Unholy both had viable and powerful burst opportunities.
Fair enough :)
That guy likes to troll.
Aye just saw some of his topics rofl :P
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snackwell
ok ok ok this thread is useless now, guys realize we will never....ever win the flame wars against dks
now for my point, dks are to easily burst down(atleast on my server) i do arena in a old fashioned pom pyro build, just get the range to set up the first pyro, fling it away with pom+pyro and normall thats atleast 10k of their health gone in one assault
now for chains of ice....it just sucks give it a maybe 35 sec cd and we'd be fine
next, a dk that is furiously geared and decently skilled can easily nail down any class, that's just how it is. They're op plain and simple, one of my best friends is a dk fanatic, he complains about nerfs blah blah blah, they're op and they most likely always will be
please guys, just stop arguing this was blizzards first attempt at a newer class, their bound to screw it up. Give them credit for something though, havent we all gotten a little better at pvp because of the dk. I know my reaction times are better because of it. Everyone had to have learned a new trick or two or something.
Blizz no need to fix dks(or remove them) just make sure the next hero class(if there is one) isn't a huge flame war.
and for my last remark....Yay for their being a 3rd faction Horde vs Alliance vs DKS iz not 0P DAWG L2P L2P L2p people
ok wait wait wait i gotta add one more bit here. Just so everyone knows I do play a dk for fun, i enjoy it and all so don't say i'm just a hater for getting ganked. Lastly(for reals this time) don't a dk near me, they will die by my arcaney goodness
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I dueled a dk today.He popped AoTD +chain's of ice.I was like wtf?I got him to 50%,then he used his pet to heal himself! So yes they are way OP ..and a LOT needs to be done,not just the ones you mentioned.Blizzard always tells us that pressing a few buttons should not be the case,Well that seems to be the case with dk's.So how about some serious nerfing Bliz?
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the fun of BG PVP in 59-80 brackets.
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