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Post by
paloo
Hi
Just made this topic to find out if this is just a thing on my realm or a general problem...
Naxx pugs on my realm usually start searching for ranged dps only if there are as little as three melee dps in the group, and it's really starting to annoy me... For example I recently joined a naxx25 pug with my warlock and as soon as we got 3 melee dps (all DK) the pug leader started searching for ranged dps only. No feral druid in the group, no ret pally, no enhancement shaman, no rogue... or another example on my warlock I was invited to a group that was searching ranged dps for Kel: Fair enough I thougt but when I joined the group had about 6 mages, 4 warlocks, 4 hunters... you get the point. also it's not only for naxx groups also seen many times people searching ranged only for VoA.
I just don't get the idea behind this, it sucks for melees that can't get into groups, it sucks for the few melees that can get into the group (zero support), it sucks for the ranged dps that won't see a single piece of loot because there is so much competition.
What is it that makes people believe that everything will be easier if you only take ranged dps? Or what is it that makes people think melee dps is in some way inferior to ranged dps?
So yeah is this a thing that is exclusive to my realm or did you experience this too? Or can somebody enlighten me what the secret behind ranged dps > melee dps is...
Post by
Modibybob
Which is why my rogue is retired right now.
Unfortunately, it's the truth. When you're not melee, you have a much lower chance of dying / taking substantial damage because youre not all up in the action where the tank is. Also, you dont need to 'move out of the bad stuff' as much if you're ranged.
-Former rogue rolled warlock
Post by
fearbefore
I didn't even finish reading the entire thread, I only got about two lines through it, but I have a pretty good idea where this is going.
The reason why raid leaders do this is because it's much better fill up on Ranged DPS when the raid is just getting started than have a ton of Melee, but only around two Ranged. Do you seriously want to be in a group where you whipe a million times on KT just because there's 3 Ranged DPS in the entire raid?
Whenever I run Naxx Pugs I always fill up on whatever I can find, (so long I have my priests) and then start. Everyone knows that about 99.9% of Pugs usually end up in the raid leader booting and replacing terrible players half way through, or replacing the people who don't have enough patience to stay the entire time. I know it'd suck balls to get to KT and actually have a good, faithful pug with more melee than you want, but there's about a .0000001% of that happening unless you're pugging with people you know, which really wouldn't be considered a pug in the first place.
All in all, it's nice to have one of each, that way if you can't get in a naxx group on your melee, switch to your ranged. :D
Post by
paloo
Which is why my rogue is retired right now.
Unfortunately, it's the truth. When you're not melee, you have a much lower chance of dying / taking substantial damage because youre not all up in the action where the tank is. Also, you dont need to 'move out of the bad stuff' as much if you're ranged.
-Former rogue rolled warlock
Ok but in naxx I can think of only three things were this is partially true... trashmobs, sapphiron and kel. for all other bosses I don't see how melees have a harder time. And if you're just a little bit competent you won't have problems with sapph, kel and trash too...
Aren't you sick of having to share loot with 5 mages and warlocks because of range dps stacking? -.- I know I am
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paloo
Sucks to see that the global opinion seems to be range dps > melee dps...
and imo it's mostly in the players heads -.-
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Post by
paloo
<Nova>
<3 melee die> because they couldnt run
<Lightning Thing> Ranged were spread
Why do you automatically assume that melee fail to run out but ranged manage to spread out...? ;/
Post by
NeoBlackheart
Naxx 10 is not as hard as you might think with Melee you just have to be very good.
Last night we did the dedicated few 3 Dks 2 tanks and me 2 rogues 1 enhance shammy 1 Holy Pally and 1 Resto Druid... Not once did any of the melee die to iceblock or even let others get hit by it.
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NeoBlackheart
The only one that was even remotely in any BAD gear namely 1 Blue ring was the Holly pally but he was still putting out 2400HPS.
SO find good people and you won't die.
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Post by
Modibybob
Which is why my rogue is retired right now.
Unfortunately, it's the truth. When you're not melee, you have a much lower chance of dying / taking substantial damage because youre not all up in the action where the tank is. Also, you dont need to 'move out of the bad stuff' as much if you're ranged.
-Former rogue rolled warlock
Ok but in naxx I can think of only three things were this is partially true... trashmobs, sapphiron and kel. for all other bosses I don't see how melees have a harder time. And if you're just a little bit competent you won't have problems with sapph, kel and trash too...
Aren't you sick of having to share loot with 5 mages and warlocks because of range dps stacking? -.- I know I am
Anub'Rekan - Locust swarm, melee ftl
Patchwerk - Hateful Strikes, melee ftl
Running after adds as opposed to just hitting tab + cast, melee ftl
I was a rogue for two and a half years, ranged is just so much easier. I don't think Ill ever go back.
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Post by
Modibybob
Cause it matters if we're not on the same server and faction amirite?
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