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Post by
Erethzium
Just wanting to make sure, is this the correct Elemental rotation?
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2
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3
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4
Lightening Bolt -> Flame Shock -> Lightening Bolt x 5 -> Lava Burst
1 -> 2 -> 3 -> 4 -> 2 -> 3 -> 4 -> 2 -> 3 -> 4 ect
Is that right? I'm just asking because it seems a little TOO simple...being just three buttons.
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Post by
TaurenSham
You are essentially you are right, but there is no "rotation" there is an order of importance. This is because haste plays a big part in how many LBs you will hurl.
1.) Flame Shock
2.)Lava Burst
3.) Lighting Bolt
4.) Chain Lightning (people will argue forever whether this actually boosts dps on single mobs)
Always make sure Flame Shock is up since that's how you get the insta-crits with LvB. Hit LvB every time it is off cd and then just spam LB. (Although with multiple mobs use CL too)
Post by
Haxzor
Ok, it's a rotation.
Flame Shock -> LvB -> LBx4(or 5) -> LvB -> LBx3(or 4) -> repeat!
you seem to be missing the all important Flame Shock Glyph
Post by
Erethzium
Yeah, my glyphs are:
Flametongue Weapon (2% crit)
Totem of Wrath (SP buff from totem of wrath)
Lava Burst (+sp% for lava burst)
And no, I don't use Lava Burst every time it's off Cooldown...don't I need to use as many Flame Shock DoT ticks as I can? I wait until it's about to run out before using Lava Burst.
To tell you the truth, Haxzor, my DPS decreased by about 150 or so, when I used Flame Shock glyph and that rotation. I switched out Flametongue glyph for it.
Post by
ZoraLink
Yeah, my glyphs are:
Flametongue Weapon (2% crit)
Totem of Wrath (SP buff from totem of wrath)
Lava Burst (+sp% for lava burst)
And no, I don't use Lava Burst every time it's off Cooldown...don't I need to use as many Flame Shock DoT ticks as I can? I wait until it's about to run out before using Lava Burst.
To tell you the truth, Haxzor, my DPS decreased by about 150 or so, when I used Flame Shock glyph and that rotation. I switched out Flametongue glyph for it.
Switch out the lava burst glyph. Not the Flametongue weapon. And yes, using flame shock, followed by a lava burst, then 4x lightning bolts, etc. is the most effective path. What is your DPS by the way? Lava burst alone makes up around 40-45% of my damage. I couldn't do that if I didn't have the flame shock glyph and use it every time it's off cooldown.
Post by
Erethzium
Without the Flame Shock glyph, I do a steady 2750-2800 DPS, and with the Flame Shock glyph and that rotation, I couldn't pass 2600. When I looked at Recount, Lightening Bolt was making up the most part of my damage.
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Post by
Gnub
I'm clueless as to how you can get LESS dps when using the Flame Shock Glyph... really.
Use the following 3: Flame Shock, Totem of Wrath and Lightning Bolt.
- Keep Flame Shock up (as in, only cast it when the debuff on the target wears off).
- Use Lava Burst whenever you can
- Spam Lightning Bolt.
... that's it. :)
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Post by
Erethzium
Edit: What's your spell hit at?
Spell Hit is at 343. Draenei Shaman. (+1% hit racial) (cap is 342)
- Keep Flame Shock up (as in, only cast it when the debuff on the target wears off).
- Use Lava Burst whenever you can
- Spam Lightning Bolt.
This is exactly what I was doing with the Flame Shock glyph...I'd always get in 2 Lava Bursts before having to re-apply Shock.
I'm really clueless as to why my DPS is lower, as well. I think it's because I'm not constantly casting, like I am without Flame Shock glyph. Every once in a while I'll just wait the extra second or half-second for Lava Burst cooldown to finish, instead of casting a Lightening Bolt. Whereas without the glyph, I'm constantly casting, with no breaks or stops or pauses at all.
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Post by
Haxzor
care to link your armoury?
Post by
Erethzium
i ran the numbers and its a 40 dmg differance
40 damage if you have 400 spellpower...
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41524
10% of spellpower. A 40 damage difference would require 400 spellpower.
I'm at 1900 SP currently, so I gain almost 200 damage from the glyph, I don't know if it's 400 with crits, though.
Armory:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dalaran&n=Gomiris
Post by
Haxzor
You have little haste, and your SP is low-ish
You're in mostly blues.
Don't expect magic from that.
P.S.
get these 3 glyphs. LB, ToW and FS
do the rotation, it
IS
higher dps
Post by
Erethzium
You have little haste, and your SP is low-ish
You're in mostly blues.
Don't expect magic from that.
P.S.
get these 3 glyphs. LB, ToW and FS
do the rotation, it
IS
higher dps
I'm not expecting high DPS, I'm wondering why this rotation and glyph set is doing less DPS for me, when everyone else says it's the best. I've tested it countless times now, and it always gets lower DPS.
I think I'll just stick with whatever works.
Post by
Haxzor
You have little haste, and your SP is low-ish
You're in mostly blues.
Don't expect magic from that.
P.S.
get these 3 glyphs. LB, ToW and FS
do the rotation, it
IS
higher dps
I'm not expecting high DPS, I'm wondering why this rotation and glyph set is doing less DPS for me, when everyone else says it's the best. I've tested it countless times now, and it always gets lower DPS.
I think I'll just stick with whatever works.
Haste is the key here.
It shouldn't have lower DPS, your problem might be lag or slow reactions. But I personally pull ~4.2k dps in ten mans using the rotation
Post by
ZoraLink
You say you stop casting, don't. If you find yourself with a second or two before another LvB, just use chain lightning with its shorter cast time. I usually pump an extra chain lightning into my rotation anyway.
Post by
Erethzium
Haste is the key here.
It shouldn't have lower DPS, your problem might be lag or slow reactions. But I personally pull ~4.2k dps in ten mans using the rotation
Can't be lag, I sit around 50ms latency. And not slow reactions, I mash the buttons before the GCD is even finished.
I think I'll try using a Chain Lightening like Zora said.
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