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3.2 Frost DW Explained
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Basically mate, without any actual testing you are just stating your opinion.
However there two points I need to make due to the actual testing factor.
1) Increased Parry Haste on DW tanking is not a factor it's not large enough to cause a concern. However threat generation is significantly lower based on testing with 2 1h fast tanking weapons as you have to go tanking weapons if you want to make up for lost stats due to losing teh rune and 2h stam buffs.
2) 2H frost dps build is dead. It is far behind in terms of dps. DW is strictly frost now, there is no way around it. With recent live testing it comes out right in the middle between Unholy and Blood in AoE dps and between Blood and Unholy in single target thread.
I appreciate your work, however your it's going to be a huge threat generation is ridiculous otherwise rogues would have nothing but threat problems, and for the most part they don't.
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This is the reason why DW threat generation is so low, A good DK tank is prety much constantly using this ability and it eats a lot of runic power, But with the lower hitting One handed weapons the threat it causes is significantly lower than when you do so using a 2hander. Since ToT does not effect rune strike in anyways what so ever(Probably never will, blizzards wants us to be 2-hander tanks)
That's why their threat generation will fall so far behind, their rune strikes will never be as good as a two-handers.
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is this thread mainly about tanking or dps? cuz it seems to me that the original post is more about DW dps, and parry haste shouldnt be a problem cuz ur always supposed to be behind vezax.
jw theonlyoz. do u have the stat weighings for frost DW? cuz atm i have like 33.78% arpen from gear lol... but also have 2 spare 178 dps weps... jw cuz i wanna see with my current stats if it more beneficial to stay 2h or DW in 3.2
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is this thread mainly about tanking or dps? cuz it seems to me that the original post is more about DW dps, and parry haste shouldnt be a problem cuz ur always supposed to be behind vezax.
jw theonlyoz. do u have the stat weighings for frost DW? cuz atm i have like 33.78% arpen from gear lol... but also have 2 spare 178 dps weps... jw cuz i wanna see with my current stats if it more beneficial to stay 2h or DW in 3.2
DW will be using Slow/Slow weapons in 3.2 Fast/Fast is out. AS for stat weightings they have not been determined yet. Though Frost's armour penatration stat weighting will be on the same level as Blood in the upcoming patch.
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DW will be using Slow/Slow weapons in 3.2 Fast/Fast is out. AS for stat weightings they have not been determined yet. Though Frost's armour penatration stat weighting will be on the same level as Blood in the upcoming patch.
arpen would be as good? XD
and yeah both my weps r slow. ~2.5 interesting... why would arpen for frost be as good as for blood in 3.2?
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I am sorry to once again have to correct you, but a slow 103 dps slow weapon is equal to in damage via Frost DW because of our attacks a 178 dps fast weapon. I can link you the mathematical formulas used to establish the equalization based on the attacks that we use. Slow/Slow 2.5 and up is the weapon of choice for frost DW coming up.
ArP will not be as valued as Blood, but it will be closer as a huge portion of our dps is going to come from Oblit and BS now, with FS being absolutely destroyed in the upcoming patch.
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