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Post by
Sparky23
Name's Killzem.
I'm on the Azjol-Nerub server as a Protadin and I get compliments about how well I hold aggro and that I know what i'm doing but... I feel I need improvement.
I use Seal of Corruption, Judgement of Wisdom, Blessing of Sanctuary, and always have my Righteous Fury up. I use Shield of Righteousness, Hammer of the Righteous, Holy Shield, Consecration, Judge, Hand of Reckoning (The extra damage as threat is more of a filler, if i'm doing something wrong in a rotation I usually use this to fill it), and I don't really hit them in any particular order. I usually hit them all as the cooldown comes up, but I like to start with Shield of Righteousness to generate some heavy threat in the beginning, followed up by a Consecration, and a Holy Shield, then just throw the rest out.
My current spec is
5/61/5
. I'll be honest and say I don't know if Strength has a use for a Prot Paladin. I've focused primarily on Defense considering I just hit 80 July 13th, and just hit the defense cap later that night.
I'm writing this post in the hopes that someone can tell me if i'm doing something wrong. Or even give me tips. I don't know what Strength is for on a Prot Paladin, I don't have a set Rotation, and i've held my own in terms of Aggro against even Ulduar geared Hunter's (Again, one night as 80, I just got Red Sword of Courage on my first night).
So if anyone can give me any info, tips, or anything to help me make sure I keep my group alive, it wuld be much appreciated.
Post by
Mileron
Strength = block value and AP for paladins. More strength = more damage blocked by shield.
You don't give any indication as to what you could be doing "wrong" that you think needs "to be improved."
If you're holding aggro against an Ulduar hunter, I'd say you're doing pretty good - with the caveat that they didn't go easy on you because you just hit 80 ;)
What feels "wrong" ?
Talent tips: move the 5 points out of Divinity into Divine Strength. Also, most will not recommend using Seals of the Pure or Reckoning. Instead they'll point you towards the Ret tree.
Seal of Vengeance is the preferred tanking glyph, as opposed to Consecration. Glyphed Consecration will mess up your 969 timing.
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Post by
runtodarkness
Rotation is 9696, again, stickies, read them.
After learning the 969 rotation, if another paladin doesn't know it I'd pick you 9 times out of 10 over them, unless they're in like t8.5 and you're sitting on like 22k but you get what i mean.
Basics of 969 are you have your "9" second CD's (a few are 8) and your 6 second CD's. Just rotate 9's and 6's (you need 1 point in reduced judge CD, and you CAN'T have glyph of consecration).
Basically my rotation is as follows, it's easy to see once you chunk it apart.
1=HS (9)
2=HotR (6)
3=Judge (9)
4=SotR (6)
5=Cons (9)
12345 21 432 54 repeat. Basically you just run UP the numbers, and then kinda go down in jumps upwards... Meh it's confusing, but go spend 10 minutes on a target dummy and you'll be tapping the things out with your fingers on an imaginary keyboard in your sleep... Well, for me it was at work, but y'know.
*edit* My tankadin (khaelian) is linked below, my spec has all the MUST have talents but the 11 in holy I've never actually seen anyone use, I just wanted another flexible emergency button*
Post by
MischievousLoki
Basically my rotation is as follows, it's easy to see once you chunk it apart.
1=HS (9)
2=HotR (6)
3=Judge (9)
4=SotR (6)
5=Cons (9)
12345 21 432 54 repeat. Basically you just run UP the numbers, and then kinda go down in jumps upwards... Meh it's confusing, but go spend 10 minutes on a target dummy and you'll be tapping the things out with your fingers on an imaginary keyboard in your sleep... Well, for me it was at work, but y'know.
Here's something that should make it easier to learn.
these are my bindings (not really important, I do crazy things with my keys...):
HotR=1
ShoR=2
Judge=3
HS=4
Cons=alt+1
though if you make Consecration 5 instead, you've got 12 345
hit a 9, hit a 6, hit a 9, etc.
This way they're broken up into logical groupings that are easy to remember, as long as you go back and forth between the two groupings of keys, you can't hit anything out of sequence.
Post by
hatman555
*edit* My tankadin (khaelian) is linked below, my spec has all the MUST have talents but the 11 in holy I've never actually seen anyone use, I just wanted another flexible emergency button*
It is an interesting spect to say the least. You do have all the musts for tanking, but I really don't see the benifit in using
Aura Mastery
. Unless you have another palidin tank in the group, you are going to be using
Devotion Aura
not
Concentration Aura
which is needed to activate the spell. So your going to need to use one global cool down to switch aruas, another global cool down to switch back. Since I have never used the spell I don't even know if the spell itself is off the global cool down. It would make sence to have it off because it should be use as an inturupt to prevent a negative effect being cast...but still, even if it was off the GC, its still 3 clicks and atleast 3 seconds to cast with the aura switch and then another 1.5 seconds to switch back to your tanking aura.
I'm not convinced.
Hat
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Post by
PureGold
Here
is the basic make up I see around the few servers I play on. There is quite a few points left over to put in whatever you want.
If you can't tell most people are pointing out that the main flaw we can see is your spec. However more information would help us see why you feel you have room to improve.
Also I notice you didn't say you used Exorcism. Use it. At least for now while it still is decent.
Edit: ...in fact replace your Hand of Reck with Exorcism unless you REALLY need to taunt you NEVER should. Making a mob immune to taunts for some extra threat is never good.
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Post by
laitaro
Since you have got a few tips on speccs, i will give you an advice on your gear.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41387
and
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40707
go get them.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=36993
will allow you to re-enchant for more stamina.
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