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Arthas VS Ner'Zhul VS The Lich King - Unintentional Blizzard Statement?
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Post by
Ganit
So, I've seen a LOT of debate about whether the person we're currently after is Arthas, Ner'Zhul, neither (The Lich King) or some mixture of these.
Well today, like a lot of people, I was having authentication issues and for some reason I picked up my box for the Wrath expansion I bought at Target. I began reading the back, and this is what I read:
"The Lich King Awaits...
You've turned the tide against the demonic evils of Outland. Now the
Lich King Arthas
has set in motion events that will lead to the extinction of all life on Azeroth. With the undead legions of the Scourge threatening to sweep across the land, you must strike at the heart of the frozen abyss and end the Lich King's reign of terror for all time..."
I realize this isn't exactly proof, but it IS official Blizzard material. I also realize, I'm going to get a lot of "It's just marketing. Arthas is the face we know..." responses and that's fine. I just wanted to point this out.
Let me know what you think, guys.
Post by
Adamsm
Arthas is the face, Ner'zhul is however many years of experience, there is only the undead lord known as the Lich King. It's actually pretty simple, the only people who would know ner'zhul is in the mind of the Lich King with Arthas are all dead or servants of the Scourge themselves, so yeah everyone say's Arthas because they're not looking too closely, they just see the surface and think that's it.
Post by
Ganit
Arthas is the face, Ner'zhul is however many years of experience, there is only the undead lord known as the Lich King. It's actually pretty simple, the only people who would know ner'zhul is in the mind of the Lich King with Arthas are all dead or servants of the Scourge themselves, so yeah everyone say's Arthas because they're not looking too closely, they just see the surface and think that's it.
I get that. It just seems to me that if Blizzard wanted to make a point that Arthas was gone they would have said "the Lich King has set in motion..." They are going to have to decide whether Arthas Menethil is still alive in there somewhere, for purposes of his return if he is.
Post by
Adamsm
Well think about this, the box was for when it came out, at that point, no one had done the long quest in Icecrown about Arthas's past, the one that ends with his heart being destroyed and realizing there is no way to redeem him.
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Post by
Adamsm
Heh, eh you'll beat me next time Delterius.
Post by
Ganit
I was actually previously aware of Tirion's Gambit. I suppose it doesn't mean anything. It just caught my eye.
Post by
Gnub
I'd suggest reading the book on Arthas which hasn't been out for that long - it clears it up pretty well.
Don't worry, I won't spoil it - but it's a fine read :)
Post by
Blackboy0
When Arthas fused himself with Ner'zhul, they were both infused into ONE:
The Lich King
. There is no longer Arthas, there is no longer Ner'zhul. They are one. The Lich King.
It is like Illidan, how he is neither Night Elf or Demon, but something else. Not the best example, but you get it? =P
Post by
Gnub
When Arthas fused himself with Ner'zhul, they were both infused into ONE:
The Lich King
. There is no longer Arthas, there is no longer Ner'zhul. They are one. The Lich King.
It is like Illidan, how he is neither Night Elf or Demon, but something else. Not the best example, but you get it? =P
I'm sorry, but... read the book. :P
Post by
warlock454
The Lich King is
Arthas
with some of Ner'zhul's previous knowledge and experience thrown in. He is, however, irredeemable. Their spirits were initially fused ("We are one"), but the book pretty plainly clarifies that Arthas kills Ner'zhul's spirit in a fairly violent spiritual betrayal.
Lore aside, I think this was done to just maintain a singular villain with a name and a face, as some others have stated. It was done to make a contrast between the Ner'zhul Lich King and the Arthas Lich King, pretty much making "Lich King" a claimed title more than an actual person. Arthas is the King of the Scourge, if you look at it that way. In the same way that he killed Terenas Menethil, he also killed Ner'zhul to claim his crown.
Post by
Adamsm
Arthas is the face, Ner'zhul is however many years of experience, there is only the undead lord known as the Lich King.
What I said earlier still stands, because at the end of the Book, the Arthas side, the kid(his heart or whatever you want to call it) dies as well. There is the only Lich King, it's not Arthas and it's not Ner'zhul.
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