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Predatory Strikes: A Question on Function
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Post by
Ganit
Hey guys, I'm wondering if
Predatory Strikes
stacks with all the AP generated from your weapon, from Agility and Strength, or if it's only the weapons that have "+X attack power" on it.
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Post by
Aadramelekh
Remove weapon and equip it again, write down the value of AP in both situations and then doing a little math should provide an answer, eh?
I am now at work so can't do it at the moment. Counting on our irish furry friend here,
Mr. parrazell
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Post by
Heckler
This should be pretty easy to test (I think it only works on the Feral AP Portion).
In game, no weapon equipped, cat form: 2875 AP.
Now I equip:
Origin of Nightmares
Expected gains affecting AP:
100 Agility becomes 108 Agility (+119 AP) due to IMotW, HotW, SotF (+143 AP if PredStrikes works)
154 AP becomes +169 AP due to HotW (+203 AP if PredStrikes works)
2085 F.A.P. becomes 2502 due to Pred.Strikes, then 2752 due to HotW
Total expected gain: 3040
Expected Char Screen Value: 5915
If PredStrikes only affects Feral AP, the charscreen should show a value of 5915 AP.
If PredStrikes also affects Non-Feral AP then this number becomes +3074 AP = 5949 AP
If PredStrikes affects both Agi-based AP and Non-Feral AP, it becomes +3098 AP = 5973 AP
Actual In-game result:
5949 AP
Conclusion: The 20% AP bonus granted by Predatory Strikes applies to the attack power granted by a weapon both in the form of Feral A.P. and Non-Feral AP; but not AP granted by Agility / Strength.
(It should be noted that the AP from Agility is just a side-effect of Cat Form, and does not "grant attack power" by itself. Strength on the other hand, DOES "grant" attack power all on its own, so any AP gains from Strength may be included. Since I don't have any +Str on my weapons, I attempted to test this on my lowbie feral: a +4 Str / +1 Agi weapon added 10 Attack Power . If PredStrikes afftected Str you would expect this number to be closer to 12 AP, not 10. Though this isn't conclusive, I'm going to say PredStrikes does not affect Str-based AP either.)
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Edit: After a little forum searching, I found a couple results confirming what I've posted, most interestingly that PredStrikes also affects the Massacre enchant, meaning in reality Massacre would give you 110 * 1.1 * 1.2 =
145 AP
, which means I've been doing it wrong for some time in my maths. It does
not
affect Mongoose or Berserking however; in Berserking's case, this is likely because its the Proc granting the AP, not the Weapon, and in Mongoose, because its adding Agi, not AP.. and the proc thing.
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Post by
Aadramelekh
I found a couple results confirming what I've posted, most interestingly that PredStrikes also affects the Massacre enchant, meaning in reality Massacre would give you 110 * 1.1 * 1.2 = 145 AP
HOLY SH*T!
And I suppose this makes Massacre at least as good as Berserking? >_>
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Heckler
I found a couple results confirming what I've posted, most interestingly that PredStrikes also affects the Massacre enchant, meaning in reality Massacre would give you 110 * 1.1 * 1.2 = 145 AP
HOLY SH*T!
And I suppose this makes Massacre at least as good as Berserking? >_>
While I honestly cannot tell if you're being sarcastic or not, according to Toskk's, it still comes out less than Mongoose and Berserking, though much closer than before. (In my gear, the numbers are 4021, 4022, 4024 for Massacre, Mongoose, and Berserking respectively).
Post by
Aadramelekh
I was not being sarcastic, actually I did say 'at least as good as'. I was being serious.
And in my book, 4021 is equivalent to 'at least as good as' 4024. And given the RNG issues with Mongoose or Berserking... I'd say my new favorite is Massacre. I like the word better than the other two anyway.
Post by
Kutkh
While I honestly cannot tell if you're being sarcastic or not, according to Toskk's, it still comes out less than Mongoose and Berserking, though much closer than before. (In my gear, the numbers are 4021, 4022, 4024 for Massacre, Mongoose, and Berserking respectively).
Also note that difference is highly dependant on gear youre wearing. Last time I checked Toskk's calculator, it showed Berserking as the best weap enchnat for me, followed by Massacre. And since I prefer static enchants when it comes to DPS my choice was clear.
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