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What's the use of Unholy Presence?
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I'm running
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with DW on my DK and I've found through my own testing on the dummy and through Heroics that I get a much higher DPS increase using UP over BP. When I used BP, I couldn't get a proper rotation off. Because I wasn't getting a proper rotation, the 15% extra damage didn't matter. So, UP has it's uses, you just have to find them.
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I dps as DW frost/unholy and I have the same issue with trash in heroics -- they die before I can get a full rotation off if I'm in blood presence. I've had good results being in unholy presence for trash, but switching to blood for most bosses. Another thing I've noticed is that in blood I tend to cap out rune power due to a lower number of GCD's. In unholy, I have more available GCD's with which to dump my runic power, which means a lot more frost strikes.
so which one seems better? cuz capping RP happens to me alot as DW frost in blood pres too... cuz of all the rime procs, and the fewer number of GCDs.
ive gone in unholy pres for that, but i dont really have numbers to see which one is better...
i would reason that u would do the same if not more dps in unholy because the only reason blood out performs unholy is because most rune rotations fit in blood pres and blood hits harder...
but if u go in unholy, tho ur not hitting as hard, u would be hitting more times...
however that would be a problem of a 15% dps increase in blood VS a 15% haste in unholy...
as unholy.. assuming u have 1 sec atks, u would have 1-0.15=0.85 the normal atk speed, then 1/0.85=1.176 atks per second. so u hit an additional 0.176atks~17.6% dps increase.
thsi is only true assuming u completely fill ur rotation in unholy and u dont have any wait time... which is not always the case
ASIDE from a pure damage standpoint, unholy pres also lets u move faster, letting u move away and getting back to the boss faster... eg. running between boss and adds in emalon or running in and out of mimiron shockblasts...
then again... i dont have math to support this...
check my math pl0x cuz its 6 AM in the morning here... i just got up... and found out that realms r still on maintanence lol...
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however that would be a problem of a 15% dps increase in blood VS a 15% haste in unholy...
as unholy.. assuming u have 1 sec atks, u would have 1-0.15=0.85 the normal atk speed, then 1/0.85=1.176 atks per second. so u hit an additional 0.176atks~17.6% dps increase.
thsi is only true assuming u completely fill ur rotation in unholy and u dont have any wait time... which is not always the case
You're missing out, that blood presence is 15% of ALL your damage. Unholy presence is 15% more autoattacks, and autoattack related damage (necrosis, BcB). So, unholy presence boosts about 30-40% of your dps by 15%, as opposed to all of your dps.
On trash in heroics though? Sure, use unholy if the group has solid dps. The gain in burst outweighs the loss in consistent damage when everything is dead before you've had time to finish half of your rotation.
i thought unholy basically increases the amount of GCDs u have in a certain time period simply cuz u swing faster...
take this for example..
pretend in blood u can hit 100 FS in 100s for 115% dmg each = 115 FS
in unholy u would be able to hit 117~118 FS in 100s for 100% dmg each =117~118 FS.
so if u cant fit all of ur rotation in the usual blood pres... unholy pres would be more beneficial?
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it may be that i have a totally wrong understanding... but unholy presence allows u to do more strikes in a given amount of time.
as long as theres a rune CD time between atks where u r just auto atking, blood is better..
but if not? how is unholy pres? cuz somehow i max out RP as DW frost quite often..
maybe its just me.. D:
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