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Trial of the Grand Crusader (10/25man Heroic)
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Erethzium
My guild is going to try ToC25 Heroic tonight, but I don't know if I'm able to do it...I've done all the bosses on 25man except the twin Val'kyr (had to sit out due to connection issues) But I DID participate in slaying Anub'Arak. Will I be able to do ToC25 Heroic, or do I need the achievement?
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Erethzium
Anyone know...?
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Post by
MischievousLoki
You only need one person in the raid to have killed all of the bosses in regular 25 man TotC in order for the entire raid to enter heroic 25 man TotC.
Pretty sure you can enter even if no one has done it. You just don't get the option to summon the bosses when you talk to the NPC in there if you haven't beaten normal.
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Erethzium
Yeah, I want to know if I can actually do the instance...not just enter it...
Post by
Porcell
Yeah, I want to know if I can actually do the instance...not just enter it...
Like, how well you would perform in it?
... You've cleared 25 man normal. Do you know anything about your class? Do you know what gear you have? You should know for yourself what your abilities are, especially if you are raiding T9 content...
It's not like you gave us an armory link or something.
The main point is getting tanks who can stay alive and healers who can keep your tanks alive, at the same time as having damagers that are good enough to beat enrage timers.
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Porcell
It's been answered multiple times, I thought it was pretty clear that you only needed one person to have cleared normal mode in order to do the heroic mode.
When someone gets clear answer, and responds "I don't want to know if I can enter the instance, I want to know if I can DO it." I take DO it as to be actually... doing it.
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Erethzium
Yeah, I was asking if I could COMPLETE the instance, not if I was geared enough for it...
"I don't want to know if I can enter the instance, I want to know if I can DO it."
Don't know how this translates to "Am I / Is my raid geared enough?", especially when I said:
I've done all the bosses on 25man except the twin Val'kyr (had to sit out due to connection issues) But I DID participate in slaying Anub'Arak. Will I be able to do ToC25 Heroic, or do I need the achievement?
Thanks for answering, Twinz.
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Erethzium
Got slaughtered in heroic, can't get through first phase without the 2 jormungars coming out.
Yeah, pretty much same, with my guild...We'd get Gormok to ~15% before the 2 jourmungars came out, and then it was just a wipe.
I'm thinking we'll need to run 25norm and 10man/10man Heroic and gear ourselves up a bit before making another attempt at Heroic.
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lorgion
Yeah, pretty much same, with my guild...We'd get Gormok to ~15% before the 2 jourmungars came out, and then it was just a wipe.
That is "normal". They just have to be picked up. Idealy he each phase should be completed or almost completed as the next one begin but there is wiggle room. The problem I guess is if you have him at 15% and still have snowbolds up to kill to. Then it will become a lot more problematic. The same will happen the next phase shift to, one worm will be dead and another one hopefully almost dead as the last phase starts. That one is a tad tricker thou since they do that underground thing so you can't have the same type nuke fest as in the previous phase.
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Post by
Bllets
Lust on Gormok straight away, as the Jourmungars have underground phases and Icehowl has his pushback/stun there is no other time you can do it and not be interrupted, it also gives you a good head start against the boss spawn timer.
My guild found it best to use Heroism on the Jormungars, as they're the most deadly out of the three. Gormok really has nothing special about his fight that's too deadly, aside from Fires and Impales. Icehowl is just a tank and spank with charges every now and then that you need to dodge. The Jormungars actually require a lot from each person, so it's best to burn them down as fast as possible, and this requires Heroism/Bloodlust. If you don't have the DPS to burn Gormok down and you waste Heroism/Bloodlust in this phase, then you'll only find yourself more screwed on the Jormungars, come time for Icehowl's release.
IMHO, it's best to use Heroism/BL right when the Jormungars come up from a burrow.
Basicly Gormok is high tank damage, kill adds and move out of fire.
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