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taurenmoo812
Good to have you back with us Rankkor.
And its a great point really because I never thought of it like this until now, but Taretha did sacrifice herself that Thrall would live, and the horde was given its savour and redemption. It would seem all Thrall trys is to honor both his people, and a promise of honoring what she sacrificed herself for.
Varian, in his demonizing of the orcs and Thrall particularly, also disgraces Taretha, because though he wouldn't even know who she was, if it wasn't for Taretha, Blackmoore would have taken the world with what he had planned (that was his intention of course to conquer the alliance for his own with his orc army).
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Arkham
Blackmoore would have taken the world with what he had plannedHe
might
have. You cannot possibly claim that he was guaranteed to have succeeded.
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Patty
Nerdrage much? /laughs
Im going to let Hymer or Thandios respond to that, I dont want to help you this time, I have tried to many times, and you alway ignore me. Go yell at a mirror and complain next time this happens.
Don't insult other users. You've done it so many times, and you've got given the same default answer every time.
Stop it.
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taurenmoo812
Blackmoore would have taken the world with what he had plannedHe
might
have. You cannot possibly claim that he was guaranteed to have succeeded.
Nope, but in his mind he saw himself as taking the world with his orc army.
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Adamsm
Blackmoore would have taken the world with what he had plannedHe
might
have. You cannot possibly claim that he was guaranteed to have succeeded.
Nope, but in his mind he saw himself as taking the world with his orc army.
Of course Blackmoore was a drunk, but as sad as it is, he was a good commander and leader of men. He out maneuvered Thrall twice, and it was only due to the Elements that the free Orc's escaped. Say what you will, but without that cruel sadistic bastard, Thrall wouldn't be the great commander and tactician he is today.
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taurenmoo812
Blackmoore would have taken the world with what he had plannedHe
might
have. You cannot possibly claim that he was guaranteed to have succeeded.
Nope, but in his mind he saw himself as taking the world with his orc army.
Of course Blackmoore was a drunk, but as sad as it is, he was a good commander and leader of men. He out maneuvered Thrall twice, and it was only due to the Elements that the free Orc's escaped. Say what you will, but without that cruel sadistic bastard, Thrall wouldn't be the great commander and tactician he is today.
you won't see me denying that fact either. Because of what a cruel, sadistic bastard blackmoore was, as well as the schemeing he had to rule all of the alliance, its because of his actions that the horde became what it is, as well as the action of Taretha.
All that shaped Thrall into one of the most noble leaders the horde could have asked of.
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"Varian Wrynn bravley lead the Alliance forces to fight and defeat the scourge at Icecrown, and what did Thrall do? He sat his butt down on his throne hoping the plagues and Garrosh would go away, with out doing anything! Varian ownz! That.... not going to happen. It's going to be Tirion Fordring leading the combined forces of the Horde and the Alliance under the Argent Crusade, with the Ebon Blade providing back up. Varian is a good warrior, but going one on one against the Lich King he would get wiped out, same as most. More then likely Fordring will die against the Lich King, but destroy him with his final strength or Morgaine will pick up the blade and finish it.
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Post by
HoleofArt
Since no one else will righten Rankkorr, I guess I will *sigh*why? because thrall is a saint, and varian is a scumbag.
why?
...since this is HIS trial, not thrall's.
The main problem here, like every other half-brained Varian hater, is that you are telling Varian "Shame on you for defending your people so we cant kill you anymore!"
...I think that just about covers everthing.
So.. you do realize that if Rankkorr is acting like a typical half-brained Varian hater... you're acting like a typical "half-brained" Varian lover, yes?
Seriously. This is no reason for insults. Mature a little and come back later.
We've discussed this previously;
Varian is a little hotheaded and rushes forward before thinking about what he does,
even if he does have his people's best interest in mind!
We've also discussed that the Horde isn't perfect. We all know it isn't, but niether is the Alliance.
Stop the name calling, get to real discussions, and please for the love of God;
It's a game!
Relax a little bit. It's just a discussion.
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taurenmoo812
plz plz plz darkton stop flaming on thrall
He can't help it, its his only method of trying to justfity varians actions so. He even results to refering to everyone else as stupid for not seeing his point of view, so its a lost cause
Example:
Blaming a whole race for no reason at all? When the evidence is plainly obvious that Garona was sent by the Horde? When the Champion of the Horde thinks that the orcs did the right thing in the second and first wars? When Thrall's idol, the genocidal maniac named Orgrim Doomhammer wants to destroy all races that are not part of the Horde, and is honored past and preasent by the Horde? ( I know he had no choice, but that never makes carving in the skulls of babys ok. This falls under Lawful Evil... at best)
/facepalm
Darkton, your someone who forces his views out there because you can only see things from one point of view, your own, and so when people like me, Rankkor or Skreeran challange your point of view, the insults, flaming and pointless debates rears itself, and you just paint yourself as a forum troll at best.
You have your opinions of Varian, I'll give you that, but in every post you've made on these forums its based purely on you screaming out 'VARIAN IS PERFECT, RESPECT HIM OR DIE!' rather then looking from any other perspective.. even I'm capable of doing this as I mentioned characters like Malfurion, Jaina and Brann who I respect.
But its doubtful you'd ever tone this down, which will just have more people unable to take your opinions seriously.
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