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Why is king Varian Wrynn racist?
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Adamsm
Because he hates the orcs. He's more a xenophob then a racist though, after all the orc's aren't part of the human race.
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Skreeran
Racist doesn't only apply to humans, it just does mostly in our world, where there aren't really any competing races.
Post by
taurenmoo812
Varian draws his hatred of the horde based one two reasons
1: He sees them as the old horde that attacked his home when he was a child, his father killed by a half orc (Half draenei).
2: He gets captured by an orc and forced to serve as a gladiator, but eventually said orc arranges for his freedom.
These are the reasons that apparently give him cause to hate orcs as people claim, but I do this day say as bad or worse things happened to Thrall, and he doesn't hate all humans for what happened to him.. but thats going of the rails there.
Naturally, humans have a xenophobic attitude in warcraft they fall back on when they don't have the willpower to get past it, the same as an orc has a savage want for distruction when they don't have the will to get past that. Thats when examples of great horde and alliance heroes come into it.
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Skreeran
He was forced to Arena for 3 seasons with a Melee Hunter.Don't forget the druid who can't even use Travel form...
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Patty
He was forced to Arena for 3 seasons with a Melee Hunter.Don't forget the druid who can't even use Travel form...
o.O
But to be honest, he hates them because he is paranoid about them. He sees an Orc, he thinks "ZOMG THEY GUNNA KEEL MEH!" Even though it's not necessarily true.
He has reasons for being fearful of the Horde, but not to be a bigot to them.
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451455
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Adamsm
No need to get all worked up Dark, it's true.
Humans in Warcraft are racist, think about the first encounter with Dwarves, they gave them a name as an insult, and there even racist against their own kind; paladins/priest vs mages, anyone against a warlock, and so on and so forth.
Elves are racist against everyone, seeing them as inperfect beings.
Orc's are racist against weaker people, don't forget on Draenor they used to speak about killing the weak children, and if Draka had been born to any clan but Frostwolf, she would have been dead within the first year.
Troll's are the most xenophobic race on the planet, they hate all others because they see the constant invasion of their lands as personal attacks.
So seriously, get over it, he has a massive flaw, same as everyone else.
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Skreeran
I still don't get why you hate Jaina so much Dark...
Was it for keeping her people safe after her father recklessly started an unwinnable war?
Or maybe it was saving Varian from getting himself killed in Undercity?
Or perhaps it was as far back as listening to Medivh and going to Kalimdor, eventually taking part in one of the most influential (if not THE most influential) battles of all time?
Bump the Jaina thread so we don't derail this one.
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, one day, a couple thousand years ago or so, the first humans appeared at the gates of Ironforge. We know this because human written tales of the day tell of the race of short, stocky, bearded master smiths who shared a great love of crafting and storytelling. Dwarves, they called us, and thus we are known today, even though at the time we didn’t know the word literally meant “diminutive.” Ah well, it could be worse — they could’ve called us “beard-men” or “rockheads” or something like that.Hardly a good way to start, calling your new allies an insult. True the dwarves don't see it like that, but.......
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Right off the Earthen page, out of one of Brann Bronzebeard's quotes. Go look under Earthen, Dwarves, on the Wowwiki page Dark.
Adam... 8 secs lolHeh, and 27 on yours.
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Skreeran
Official source being: ^ Alliance Player's Guide, 140
And they're not saying the humans hate the dwarves, just that they can be a little racist, which they can. Dwarves are frequently mocked behind their backs by the humans according to lore, just as High elves looked down on everyone else, that was the supposed triangle of the Alliance, mentioned in RotLK or ToD, Dwarf argues with elf, elf looks down on human, human mocks dwarf.
And I'd very much like to argue about Jaina in that other thread, if you don't mind.
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