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Monday
So does that make all of the Horde wrong as well? They did the same thing.
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Behelich
At first, let me make one thing clear - I am not saying that the Alliance is infallible and that they are definitely good and have the upper hand in the conflict of moralities
against the Horde
.
What I am saying is that their mistakes, misdeeds and questionable acts are a lot, a lot less than those of the Forsaken and the Banshee Queen.
Turning a blind eye to a twenty-five to forty band ruthlessly executing a
terrorist xenophobic organization
cannot hold torch to wiping out half a continent, regicide and necromancy (with eternal servitude, not raise-for-a-single-operation against those same xenophobic terrorists in mind).
Post by
Adamsm
So does that make all of the Horde wrong as well? They did the same thing.
I'm not denying that.
Um...you aren't? You've said that Sylvanas raising the dead is a good thing for the Forsaken, whether the people want to be raised up or not, but then flip around and decry it if it seems like the Alliance are going to do...please, make up your mind.
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Adamsm
Oh brother, not this bull !@#$ again......
Post by
Monday
What I am saying is that their mistakes, misdeeds and questionable acts are a lot, a lot less than those of the Forsaken and the Banshee Queen.
I have to agree. You said it well, Ald.
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Behelich
At first, let me make one thing clear - I am not saying that the Alliance is infallible and that they are definitely good and have the upper hand in the conflict of moralities
against the Horde
.
What I am saying is that their mistakes, misdeeds and questionable acts are a lot, a lot less than those of the Forsaken and the Banshee Queen.
Turning a blind eye to a twenty-five to forty band ruthlessly executing a
terrorist xenophobic organization
cannot hold torch to wiping out half a continent, regicide and necromancy (with eternal servitude, not raise-for-a-single-operation against those same xenophobic terrorists in mind).
What you're saying is that you like the alliance so you forgive their misdeeds. Just be honest.
Please, do not put words in my mouth, thank you. I am not whitewashing the Alliance. I am prosecuting the Forsaken.
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Monday
By "prosecuting" the forsaken you're whitewashing the Alliance.
Except not. He's saying that the Alliance aren't goody goody heroes and do bad stuff, but the Forsaken are worse.
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Monday
By "prosecuting" the forsaken you're whitewashing the Alliance.
Except not. He's saying that the Alliance aren't goody goody heroes and do bad stuff, but the Forsaken are worse.
What he's saying is that the alliance are innocent and the horde are guilty. In doing so he's being a blatant hypocrite.
Quote me where he said that. Not where you think it is implied, but where he actually said that.
I dare you.
Because you can't.
And you're going to ignore me or just insult me instead of answering the question. I can call it right now.
Post by
Behelich
What Fund said. "My enemy being wrong makes me right" is a known fallacy. It does not.
Believe you me, my heart lies with the Blood Elves - who, might I remind you, were brought into the Horde, and thus saved from annihilation, by the very same Sylvanas I named the new Lich Queen.
She has committed acts of valor in the past, but from some point on (maybe it was her death at the hands of Vincent, maybe something else), she has gone far, far from the point where she still could be called 'Well-Intentioned Extremist."
Heck, even now she can be charged with treason - as in, defying the direct order of the Warchief, namely, deploying the plague.
The only logical conclusion is Alliance bias on part of the fans or sexism.
Lady Liadrin is a Horde female military leader that I admire and respect. =P
Post by
Adamsm
She's trying to save her people. The alliance have supported the same actions for different ends.
Okay, off the top of my head: Arathi Highlands; original attempt on Galen Trollbane failed, second attempt with the Forsaken forces and the Val'kyr's succeeded, and the prince of Stromgarde was raised up into Undeath and has no choice but to work for the Forsaken or else....oh and just to rub it in, the Forsaken give him the quests to go and kill his own people....yeah, that's really a 'good' thing.
Also: Koltira's little issue in Andorhol; rather then being brought up on charges for treason, he's kidnapped and stuck in a torture chamber....yup, that's a 'good' thing.
Oh oh oh! Don't forget her 'greatest' idea for the Gilneas war...raising up three war criminals, thinking they will be 'happy' they were given the gift of Undeath....and look where that got her: Her head nearly blown off and three of her loyal Valk servants destroyed, lowering their numbers down to 5.
Yeah, nothing Lich King like in any of that stuff....
As for the Alliance: They do evil stuff...hell, they do a metric crap ton of it, across 6 different races....except for the whole 'raise people up into undeath' since you know, that's the work of the Legion and the Scourge.
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Only hostility has been from you.
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