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Azeroth 20 Years Later Chapter 1 Complete: Alliance
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451455
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Post by
Skreeran
Because women with kids can't possibly have new relationships.
And seriously. Garona's not going to be killed. She doesn't deserve to be killed.
Post by
Adamsm
Acctually, I am bored because Garona is back, and no one wants to kill her, heh.Why? The only one who would still possibly want to kill her has been dead for 19 years. Remember Dark, this is 20 years after the Cataclysm hits, Garona is cleansed of her taint and has been working with the Horde and the New Council against the Black Flight.
I mean lets be honest, can you really think of one good reason why they should kill Garona right now, even thought they know all the truth?
Any possible chance of Garona and Thrall being together was torn to ribbons when she had a son.Yes, because no one wants to marry a woman who has a kid. Never mind that son is as old/older then Thrall, but it could be possible after all.
Post by
451455
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Post by
Adamsm
And guys, the reason why I hate Garona is because I think her character is just plain stupied, and poorly written. And yeah, she deserves to die. Regicied.
Adams wanted me to exlain why I hate her, but if I made a thread called "My problem with Garona Halforcen", I would probobly get flamed by everyone of her fans.
Not sure where to put it....I hate to tell you this, but she's far better written then Varian, maybe not in the comics, but in the Last Guardian. As for the regicied thing, lots of heroes in WoW could be killed for that; how many princes, queens, and kings are taken down over the course of the 3 wars and WoW itself?
No one deserves to die; not Varian for his inability to control his own anger, not Thrall for his over-trusting nature, and not Garona when all of her kills were done at the magical orders of her masters, be it Shadow Council or Cho'gall and his Twilight Hammers.
As for the flaming thing..... depends on how you put it up. Yes, there will be people with disagreeing points of views, myself and Skreenan as the first two, but air it out, or put something in the General Lore thread. But as long as you don't go "Oh Garona is a horrible person, she needs to die, she's pure evil and the like" you shouldn't get flamed for putting up your opinions.
I'm not being hostile, I just wanted to know why you hate her.
Post by
Adamsm
Tauman, stop. He has a point, you do seem to enjoy posting negative things in response to his posts.
Post by
Adamsm
Tau, enough. I don't mind criticism, that helps with making your story better if it's good. I really don't expect everyone to go "ZOMG! AWSOMESAUCE! BEST EVER!" I prefer honest opinions, and I don't mind discussing what I'm working on, it helps to flesh things out.
Post by
Dralas
Seems I need to step in again...
Tauman, cool it. No need to fight with someone and cause unnecessary conflicts and tensions.
Darkton is giving his opinion which, as long as civil and not insulting or trying to make Adamsm look bad, is perfectly fine.
Post by
451455
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Post by
Adamsm
Oh well, if you don't think my opinions are honest then they're not wanted you'd rather have someone who has crummy argument's comment on your work.
I never said they weren't honest, I'm just saying, you don't need to put in things when Dark airs his disagreement. I'm glad you like my work, that is a compliment, I just don't it to descend into a flame war is all.
I guess its time I say why I don't like Garona, like you did for Illidan.
Just to clarify things.And I'll forward to reading it.
Post by
Lecks
I just read up to part 2 and I'm liking it so far, but I'm a grammar nazi...I just can't lose myself in a story when I keep raging over typo's and grammatical mistakes. Still a good read though, despite my hang-ups. :)
Post by
Adamsm
The only grammar mistakes aren't mistakes heh, if your talking about things with 'our' like honour, armour and the like, I'm canadian Lecks, that's how we spell them up here.
Post by
Lecks
A few examples from the introduction.
Following
Wyrnn
's death, the city of Stormwind fell
I read that part at least 3 times to make sure, first one I could find.
as Van Cleef had been found still alive, and
willingly
to throw in with the invaders
That should be
willing
, as it's the same as:
Van Cleef had been found still alive and willing to throw in with the invaders...
Not trying to be an ass, just trying to help. And I'm Belgian, my first language isn't English so I don't care if you spell it 'honour' or 'honor' (so long as the rest is spelled as it should be :P).
Post by
Adamsm
Lol, heh alright. Yeah I need to go back through fix all of those.
Post by
taurenmoo812
Lecks, correcting someones grammer is one thing, but at least leave some positive feedback on the story...
Post by
Skreeran
And since I already left feedback, I'll go ahead and say: It does rather bug me to read "their" substituted for "they're." Just being nitpicky, but... yeah... :P
Post by
Rankkor
The funny thing is... I hate Garona for a reason you don't even know about, I was just being blant here.
I guess its time I say why I don't like Garona, like you did for Illidan.
Just to clarify things.
you know, it's quite funny how u hate garona so much because she killed Varian's father, completely refusing to accept the fact taht she was being mind controlled, aparently for you that's not an excuse, and it's unforgivable that she killed King lane in cold blood.
why is it funny?
well....... just so we're clear varian was being mind-controlled by onyxia, and during this mind controll a lot of people died due to varian's "in-action" as a matter of fact hundreds of dwarves died on thandol span because varian refused to send reinforcements there, lots of plp died on westfall forcing the plp to form "the people's militia" due to varian's inaction to send troops to controll the defias, the plp of duskwood had to form the nightwatch to combat the worgen and other threats again due to lack of military aid from stormwind, and again this military aid was not sent because varian was being mind controlled.
it doesn't matter if varian personally killed these plp or not, they died because of his lack of action as a king, and yet it wasn't his fault because he was being mindcontrolled.
you can forgive that so easily (the deaths of hundreds of humans and dwarves) but cannot forgive the deaths of less than 20 plp that garona has killed while being mind-controlled.
aparently, the "it was mind controll" excuse works for varian, but doesn't work for garona?
as far as I can tell the ONLY reason you don't like garona, is because she killed king lane and tried to kill varian and anduin (even when all of these actions were done under a mind.controll spell, and that she actually cried after Llane's death because she loved him as a friend)
I'd tell you the name of that behaviour but then u'd call me a troll and dismiss what I say anyways.
Post by
Skreeran
He gave a list of reasons he didn't like her in the Discussion Thread. Most of them actually didn't involve Llane or Varian.
Post by
Rankkor
=O my bad then, i guess he has other reasons to dislike her, but still I'd like to know why he forgives varian's actions while under mind-controll but refuses to do the same for garona's actions under the same circunstance.
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