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Gaming Can Make a Better World
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Post by
HiVolt
I don't think this is gonna work.
Games will
NOT
make a better wrold
Games are for entertaining, by playing games all the time we will become lazy fat people.
Mark my words:this idea will FAIL.
Edit:Game is not your life!
Did you even watch the video? It's not about the playing of the games, it's about what people can learn from playing the games, and how they can apply that knowledge to the real world.
Like Malgayne said above, being a guild master or officer or raid leader, etc. allows for someone to learn many of the skills necessary in the workplace today. Social networking, teamwork, compromise, motivational techniques; all of these are important in the role of the guild master, just as they are very important in the working world.
We know that games ! = life. But you seem to be forgetting that people apply lessons they learn from various media sources to their lives already today. Self-help books abound in the US, and I can only assume that they sell relatively well elsewhere. How is learning something that you can apply to your life from a video game any different?
Post by
301983
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Post by
Fathios
Well I've gotten improved problem-solving skills, pure intuition, better reflexes, and typing skills to name a few.
Post by
HiVolt
Well I've gotten improved problem-solving skills, pure intuition, better reflexes, and typing skills to name a few.
Exactly this, and more. Being that I was a Raid Leader for a guild, I was able to learn quite a bit in team management, conflict control and motivational techniques. Not to mention that playing any game builds Hand-Eye coordination, and many allow for a basic understanding of physics.
Secarious, it seems like you're writing games off as completely non-intellectual and mind-numbing. A good game can invigorate the mind just as easily as any other type of media.
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301983
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Post by
Alreadytaken
Incredible.
Best get back to my gaming!
xD
On a serious note, I think its a really informative, intelligent and creative speech. Very curious to see if their efforts will bear fruit someday. I also like the motivatianol aspect of it.
Post by
HiVolt
One final question.The future is based on someone's job.Will games makes his job better for better results to create a ..better world?Or games is just an extra positive for his personal life like Fathios said?
That depends on what the future holds for the individual. If you have a future in a management position, then being a Guild Master in WoW is definitely going to help you hone your skills. If you have a future in medicine, there are many games that help build critical thinking skills while under pressure. If you have a future in business, playing an RTS helps you learn to manage resources efficiently.
Building these skills makes the individual better in the workplace. Being good at one's job gives a sense of accomplishment, and that sense of accomplishment can certainly lead to a better world, provided that everyone gets the chance to experience it.
Ultimately it is up to the individual to decide how they want to impact the world around them, and games help those decisions by allowing the player to build skills and knowledge.
Let's compare the idea to the foundation of every learning tool in the public school system in the US, the textbook. A textbook can teach many different skills, but they don't have any built in mechanisms that make the reader put the material contained within to practice.
A game is different. If you learn something through the course of a game, you have to put the skills that you learn into practice in order to complete the game. This gives not only the element of learning by seeing(reading), but also the element of learning by doing.
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Post by
HiVolt
I also checked the Youtube comments and most people disagree with the idea that gaming will make a better world compered to Wowhead that only 2 persons disagree...me and Roackprime..
That's because no one on Youtube has anything better to do than make nasty comments on internet videos.
Post by
Random0076
I also checked the Youtube comments and most people disagree with the idea that gaming will make a better world compered to Wowhead that only 2 persons disagree...me and Roackprime..
Because the people on youtube are the best people to look for educated opinions from. K.
Oh, and way to respond to Hivolt's post in response to yours. I love when people get in arguments the don't respond to counter arguments.
Vent, Hivolt?
Post by
301983
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Post by
HiVolt
Btw when this idea will take action to see if it will succed or fail..like I believe?
The idea is already in action. You're just not looking in the right places.
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301983
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Post by
HiVolt
Btw when this idea will take action to see if it will succed or fail..like I believe?
The idea is already in action. You're just not looking in the right places.
Not looking in the right place?And where should I look?At Youtube which as you said above everyone makes a nasty comment?
Not all of the information in the world is on Youtube. Try a google search for "positive effects of video games".
Post by
Random0076
Oh, and way to respond to Hivolt's post in response to yours.
I love when people get in arguments the don't respond to counter arguments.
Post by
Malgayne
You know what I learned from playing World of Warcraft?
I learned how to effectively communicate my feelings with other people via chatroom. That may not seem like much, but it's a surprisingly rare skill—you hear people speak all the time about how communicating via chat doesn't get as much information across, since you can't
see
the other person, or hear their tone of voice. From playing World of Warcraft, I learned the subtleties of communicating online—that it matters how long you pause before you type the next sentence, that sometimes emoticons or saying "lol" ARE necessary to effectively communicate how you feel about something, and more.
About two years after this I started developing this skill I got this job. Wowhead doesn't have an office. We all work remotely, so all of our communication has to take place online—via chat. If I
didn't
have those skills, it would severely hamper my ability to do my job...as well as the people around me who can't understand the content of the messages I'm trying to convey.
That's a relatively small thing, to be sure. But at the time when I started working, it was the
only relevant skill I had
. For me personally it's the ONLY reason I got the job. It didn't help me change the world, certainly. But it did get me a job. What can it do for you?
Post by
Malgayne
While we're on the subject,
here
is a link to a Wired article about "Why multiplayer games may be the best kind of job training."
Post by
Squishalot
I learned how to effectively communicate my feelings with other people via chatroom. That may not seem like much, but it's a surprisingly rare skill—you hear people speak all the time about how communicating via chat doesn't get as much information across, since you can't see the other person, or hear their tone of voice.
I'd like to second this point.
These days, communication across multiple media forms is becoming increasingly important. In WoW and on the Wowhead forums, we interact using chat mechanisms, forum posts, possibly using telephony services such as Vent. In real life, we communicate internationally using emails and phone calls. There's little difference.
One positive I've taken from posting on Wowhead is that I pay a lot more attention to how the reader of my email will interpret it. Will he assume that I'm being sarcastic? Have I explained it in enough detail? Have I pitched my explanation at his knowledge level? Have I covered everything necessary, or will he still need to ask me a further question? Is my email or my phone call going to convey the information I want it to, or will it be misinterpreted? It may sound fairly obvious and be common sense, but you would be surprised how few people actually consider these factors.
One final question.The future is based on someone's job.Will games makes his job better for better results to create a ..better world?Or games is just an extra positive for his personal life like Fathios said?
Games are an extra positive for personal lives, definitely. But by the same token, looking at the communication aspect of gaming, it improves all areas of your life. Better communication allows me to improve my work performance and creates less disfunction in my office environment (and international office environment). It allows me to help mentor and assist others to learn the same communication skills.
If everyone in the world learned how to make a point in an assertive, non-aggressive, non-mocking, non-rude manner through a communication mechanism such as email or web forums, yes, the world would be a better place.
The more people you influence with the positives of what you learn, no matter what it is, the better it is.
Edit: And Malgayne, what was that about double posting? ;p ;)
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