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Diminishing Returns on Dodge/Parry
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Zalambar
Your impression is correct; avoidance diminishing returns are quite unlike the limitations on crowd control spells.
As you gain higher and higher chances to dodge, parry, or be missed each of those stats becomes increasingly more expensive.
At level 80 a warrior will gain +1.99% parry chance from their first 90 parry rating. However if we give that same warrior 900 parry rating they will gain only +14.42% parry chance.
To put it another way for that level 80 warrior to go from 0% to 1% parry requires 45 parry rating but to go from 20% to 21% parry requires 136 parry rating.
I built some little calculators that might be helpful for you:
http://www.zalambar.com/warcraft_calculator/parry
http://www.zalambar.com/warcraft_calculator/dodge
and you can find much of the original work calculating these mechanics on elitistjerks:
http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t29453-combat_ratings_level_80_a/#post834904
just be aware that the first post in that thread is no longer up to date, patch 3.2 and 3.3 changed some of the mechanics.
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blademeld
Yes, that is correct, for the actual formula:
http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.com/forum/index.php?rb_v=viewtopic&t=12925
Real Dodge % = Base Dodge % + 1/(0.011347 + (.9560/(Character Sheet Dodge % - Base Dodge%)))
Real Parry % = Base Parry % + 1/(0.021275 + (.9560/(Character Sheet Parry % - Base Parry %)))
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blademeld
I just want to clarify something about diminishing returns on avoidance. If I open my character pane (link in sig), in the 'defense' tab I see Dodge: 29.45%. Is this my real (ie after diminishing returns) dodge, or is it what Blademeld is referring to as Character Sheet Dodge?
If you scroll over the dodge in your character pane, it will say "Before diminishing returns"
It's also stated that way on the Wowhead profiler.
Post by
pezz
A general concept on how it works is all I’m asking but if anyone has any specific figures on the rate of diminish would greatly be appreciated.
If you go digging around there's macros around that will get your post-DR numbers for you with a click, in-game. They make my head spin to look at them but they do exist somewhere.
Post by
Ippon
Here is one such macro:
/run local b,d,p,r,a=GetBlockChance(),GetDodgeChance(),GetParryChance(),GetCombatRating(CR_DEFENSE_SKILL) a=1/(.0625+.956/(r/122.9625)) ChatFrame1:AddMessage(format("Unhittable: %.2f%% Avoidance: %.2f%% Defense %+.0f rating",b+d+p+5+a,d+p+5+a,r-689))
All one line.
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