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Where WoW can potentially cop false blame is when high numbers of people that commit suicide play the game.
The statistics could be used to "show" WoW as a "cause" for social downfall in that scenario. In actual fact, games like WoW don't make people that way, it just tends to tend to attract the sort of people that suffer from those problems to begin with.
It is easy when depressed or stressed to forget the real world for a while and dive into the realm of WoW fantasy, in the same way that Dungeons & Dragons attracted some rather strange people back in the 70's. The same thing goes with certain types of music. Emo sub-culture is another classic modern day example.
Exactly - that's sort of along the lines of why I deleted my comment that Japan's suicide rate is higher because of cultural differences - since there are differences in the populations being looked at. WoW might attract more of those type of people who have a higher suicide rate, just like Japan might be made of a different composition of socio-economic groups than America which might account for the difference in suicide rate and not cultural differences (Although in the case of comparing Japan to America, there are numbers on the internet I can look at and compare the compositions of them and possibly control for those factors, while there isn't census data on WoW players, lol).
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I just am not seeing how monopoly splits families.
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I just am not seeing how monopoly splits families.
Ok, get a group of people together. Each put in an equal amount of real money to what play money is in the game. Play as normal but with the real money. When the game is over, everyone takes home the money they accumulated, which usually leaves one person taking home all but the bit left in the bank.
When you're half a million dollars in debt because you lost all your money to your friend, they won't share or help you out because they won it fairly and it's not their fault or responsibility if you played a game you couldn't afford to lose on, your wife has left with the kids because she is abhored that you would put your family in that sort of dire financial situation over a game and can better support the kids by living at her mother's place... then come back and tell you that you can't understand it.
And that's a realistic scenario? Really? That's what you're going with? Leave the thread... you're done here.
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Squishalot
Nobody gambles with Monopoly. Those who do are in the very distinct minority.
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It is a realistic hypothetical scenario. People with more money than sense and serious gambolling problems do things like that. Someone with a serious gamboling issue will try to make a bet on just about anything. I once had a friend that had such problems try to coax me into gamboling with him over a game a Scrabble! Until then the idea of gamboling over a game of scrabble never would have occured to me. So yes, people do indeed do stuff like that.
Then it's gambling that is the problem, not Monopoly. You also haven't cited an occasion where Monopoly has broken a family up.
I'm not going to bother proving something as trivial as that just for the sake of excessively long boring debate on here
All you need is a link to back up your 'fact'. Show us someone else proving it. Otherwise (see sig), all your hyperbole is a load of crap.
Monopoly doesn't break families up. Just to make this point very clear.
not because you are starting to get annoyed at me for pointing out that just maybe there is more to it all than you understand and you don't like it
Lol, who's getting annoyed?
Monopoly has an ergodic markov chain system. This means that a dollar earned by someone is a dollar lost by others also playing the game - very similar to the stock market in that respect. Within the players of the system, it is a zero sum game.
Gambling at casinos are not such a system. For every dollar spent at a casino, only 95% (or whatever % is prescribed in your local jurisdiction) is returned to players.
I don't think you understand, and you don't like it.
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Fact: The two games of all that exist in the world that have attributed to the most number of murders and suicides, and have destroyed the most familes and ruined lives world-wide are on a very close running for which is actually in first place. They are....
Poker and Monopoly.
Translation: Monopoly is attributed to murders and suicides, and has destroyed families and ruined lives world-wide.
I did not ever say Monopoly was a problem or that Monopoly breaks family's up... I never said Monopoly was the problem, I said it was attributed to it...
1. To relate to a particular cause or source; ascribe: attributed their failure to a lack of preparation.
2. To regard as the work of a specified agent, place, or time: attributed the painting to Titian; attributed the vase to 18th-century Japan.
Inconsistent, muchly? Or you don't know what the word 'attribute' means.
The problems you've described can be attributed to gambling, not to a game. You might as well attribute it to life generally, by your definition.
I said it was attributed to it... no doubt by narrow-minded fools that prefer to blame games for their problems rather than face reality and take responsibility for their own choices in life.
If you present something as fact, then you too must agree with it, otherwise you wouldn't present it in support of your argument. Perhaps you're one of these 'narrow-minded fools'?
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