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Post by
Pharoanx
Should Arcane Shot still be used with this new buff to Steady Shot, in means of CD to CD ( every 6 sec.), or when Serpent Sting wears off/CD's popped?
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Firebird31
test it. raid as a well spec'ed BM hunter gem'ed correctly with the right pet and check recount. if arcane is doing more damage than steady then yes its still apart of BM priority.
im presuming at highler levels of passive Arp steady wins over arcane anyway.
Post by
Firebird31
400 + arp to drop arcane from rotations is for marks... with a 9% buff... I don't know.
It's not a good enough buff, to our filler shot, to raid as bm. It's still stupid.
plus steady benefits from piercing shots which is why as mm we drop arcane at very early amounts of arp as well.
Post by
Pharoanx
So I have 480+ ArP, should I not use Arcane Shot at all, or just when I can fill it in? Also, is Multi-Shot a Dps increase on single target? I might have to test all of this out when the server comes up at ~ 2:30 Eastern time.
Post by
catlady
So I have 480+ ArP, should I not use Arcane Shot at all, or just when I can fill it in? Also, is Multi-Shot a Dps increase on single target? I might have to test all of this out when the server comes up at ~ 2:30 Eastern time.
Remember that as BM arcane is also your only instant cast. If you do drop it out of regular rotation (and I dont think you should) at least keep it on your bar, you will probably use it pretty often.
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Post by
TalonX
I'm in fully T10(2)/T10.25(2) gemmed into ArP, I hit 100% with the
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proc, and even then my Arcane Shot has about 2k more dmg to it then Steady Shot so basically never drop it imo.
This average damage came from doing VoA 10/25, weekly raid, & TotC10 since the servers came back up.
Post by
Argg0
BM needs more ArP than MM to drop Arcane from the rotation since MM has piercing shots, that doesn't affect arcane and affects steady.
And BM, in BiS gear, is full ArP.
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TalonX
I was just pointing out that it seems even if you reach the 100% ArP cap that SS doesn't seem to pull ahead of AS, although that only seems to be true when raid buffed. That's also is if you are gemming ArP and not Agi. I mean you could go and spreadsheet this !@#$ all night and come up with a million different answers for every different situation and I know that, I was just trying to possible dumb it down a little since a majority of the player base doesn't seem to like spending endless hours theorycrafting and doing the math.
SS procs piercing shots, arcane does not. SS hits harder than arcane. SS wins.
a Beast Mastery spec hunter usually doesn't have access to Piercing Shots in the 7th Tier of the MM tree, cause I thought this thread mainly was about how the patch affected BM.
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TalonX
it's not like 245 content, TotC25, is all that hard or was it ever all that hard when it was released.
I'm just trying to provide accurate info for any spec, based upon spreadsheet data, in-game target tests, actual raid data for any spec.
I will say that since BM has probable the simplest priority rotation of all 3 specs someone who doesn't play Surv well might do better as BM, if properly speced, gemmed, enchanted for there gear lvl.
Personally my hunter is an alt so I play BM cause he's who I play to relax, it doesn't mean I haven't spent endless hours tuning my hunter for maximized dps, I do run a MM off-spec if I'm in like a Blood-Queen 10 that needs the extra DPS I'll switch to my MM off-spec.
If someone likes to play a certain way and they are not under any obligation to have to be the very very very I sold my left nut to some random guy on the street so my dps/epeen would be .00000001 point greater then that other guy they don't know nore will ever meet in real life, why not help them out?
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Post by
Whybag
Random post is random.
So Blizzard wants to be the only game that doesn’t separate what a skill does between pvp and pve… why? It causes huge imbalances with the game.
Certain classes are way too overpowered in PvP yet very gimped in PvE…
This is a huge reason why BM hunters are still the lowest in the dps charts.
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