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204878
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Post by
Amnistic
I feel Dorkin's presence in Drlore...
Oh and skreeran... you be trolling.
Sorry, had to say that!
Edit: So you are saying that I am crazy? I am not crazy..
Edit: Please refrain from saying spitefull crap about christianity... I am sick to death of Doctor Lore, Skreeran and other athiests who do not know the full meaning of the bible.......Seriously, what began as a civilised conversation about religion has spiraled out of control...
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Skreeran
Edit: Please refrain from saying spitefull crap about christianity... I am sick to death of Doctor Lore, Skreeran and other athiests who do not know the full meaning of the bible.......Seriously, what began as a civilised conversation about religion has spiraled out of control...Ha!
I know far more about the Bible than most Christians I know.
Post by
Monday
I just re-read all your posts in this thread, and I can't find any evidence. Please provide a link, or repost it and we'll discuss it.
Various stories and encounters. Answers to my prayers etc.
And by discuss I assume you mean
Pick apart the story and try to find as many falsehoods as we can.
And I'd still like to know how you consider God omnipotent but still not powerful enough to bend the laws of the universe which he created.
That was my own attempt to place God in a sense I can understand him. Disregard that.
And out for a bit.
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204878
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Post by
Orranis
I just re-read all your posts in this thread, and I can't find any evidence. Please provide a link, or repost it and we'll discuss it.
Various stories and encounters. Answers to my prayers etc.
You have directly observed God answering your prayers, or the events you prayed would happen happened? There is a massive difference. What if said things happening was simply a placebo effect caused by your faith in God?
Post by
Squishalot
Oh, and Santa Claus cannot be disproven. Just try it.
Set up a camera pointing at your Christmas tree. I can guarantee that Santa, who is supposed to bring you presents, either won't, or that you'll catch your parents impersonating him.
I'll respond to your other points soon when I get time.
Dodge and dip around for 30 pages, then call your opponent an unproductive member of society. Good work.
Excuse me? Again - there've been people here preaching hate on members of the community who happen to have different beliefs than they do (or even, beliefs at all, shock horror gasp!). As I said, if you think that's worthy of respect, then I know some Muftis who have access to a number of airplanes and other weaponry whom you might also respect.
Seriously. As MyTie pointed out, some of us want an intellectual discussion. Others are incapable of putting their personal feelings aside enough to do so. They're not being productive members of this community in that respect.
You have contributed nothing to the debate bar sporadic badly thought out statements. At least some of us are enjoying and contributing to a healthy debate.
I for one, have thoroughly enjoyed this thread, and getting to know what some other members believe, even if I don't agree.
I agree, I have enjoyed this thread. I do wish that people would keep it on an intellectual level though.
Post by
Orranis
Oh, and Santa Claus cannot be disproven. Just try it.
Set up a camera pointing at your Christmas tree. I can guarantee that Santa, who is supposed to bring you presents, either won't, or that you'll catch your parents impersonating him.
I'll respond to your other points soon when I get time.
He created a fake tape, and switched it with the one you see.
By the way, did you know that oxygen is a hallucinatory gas that convinces us we have ears, while in reality we can sense the vibrations in nerve endings in our entire body?
Post by
Squishalot
Oh, and Santa Claus cannot be disproven. Just try it.
Set up a camera pointing at your Christmas tree. I can guarantee that Santa, who is supposed to bring you presents, either won't, or that you'll catch your parents impersonating him.
I'll respond to your other points soon when I get time.
He created a fake tape, and switched it with the one you see.
By the way, did you know that oxygen is a hallucinatory gas that convinces us we have ears, while in reality we can sense the vibrations in nerve endings in our entire body?
Proof within reasonable doubt. If you're going to believe that, you might as well believe in God.
Post by
Orranis
Oh, and Santa Claus cannot be disproven. Just try it.
Set up a camera pointing at your Christmas tree. I can guarantee that Santa, who is supposed to bring you presents, either won't, or that you'll catch your parents impersonating him.
I'll respond to your other points soon when I get time.
He created a fake tape, and switched it with the one you see.
By the way, did you know that oxygen is a hallucinatory gas that convinces us we have ears, while in reality we can sense the vibrations in nerve endings in our entire body?
Proof within reasonable doubt. If you're going to believe that, you might as well believe in God.
So if I don't believe that, I may as well not believe in God?
Edit: Actually, that has a lot less reasonable doubt than any Religions to me, because it says
why
we would think contrary, or why we think there is evidence contrary.
Post by
Squishalot
So if I don't believe that, I may as well not believe in God?
Edit: Actually, that has a lot less reasonable doubt than any Religions to me, because it says why we would think contrary, or why we think there is evidence contrary.
No evidence. In fact, there's probably evidence to the contrary. Camera's untouched, tape is the same one you put in, etc.
Some things in life are mutually exclusive. God and the scientific evidence we have aren't though.
Post by
Skreeran
Set up a camera pointing at your Christmas tree. I can guarantee that Santa, who is supposed to bring you presents, either won't, or that you'll catch your parents impersonating him.
I'll respond to your other points soon when I get time.Perhaps he uses people to do his work for him. Maybe he influences their thoughts to get me the things I want on Christmas. After all, when I misbehave, the quality of my presents actually does go down, and I get the best things when I do good things, so he must be watching me...
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Orranis
So if I don't believe that, I may as well not believe in God?
Edit: Actually, that has a lot less reasonable doubt than any Religions to me, because it says why we would think contrary, or why we think there is evidence contrary.
No evidence. In fact, there's probably evidence to the contrary. Camera's untouched, tape is the same one you put in, etc.
Some things in life are mutually exclusive. God and the scientific evidence we have aren't though.
This isn't just about God, that's the whole reason I made this thread. This is about arguing for your religion solely. Biblical Christianity and scientific evidence are incredibly conflicting.
Post by
Orranis
Set up a camera pointing at your Christmas tree. I can guarantee that Santa, who is supposed to bring you presents, either won't, or that you'll catch your parents impersonating him.
I'll respond to your other points soon when I get time.Perhaps he uses people to do his work for him. Maybe he influences their thoughts to get me the things I want on Christmas. After all, when I misbehave, the quality of my presents actually does go down, and I get the best things when I do good things, so he must be watching me...
This reminds me a lot of the "I felt sick, and I prayed, and I got better." I could argue "I did good, and I got good presents, just like my mommy said I would. Obviously I can say Santa is real.
Post by
Adamsm
This isn't just about God, that's the whole reason I made this thread. This is about arguing for your religion solely. Biblical Christianity and scientific evidence are incredibly conflicting.
That's true for every thing; but there is no one way, no matter what some people try to push on everyone else.
Post by
Orranis
This isn't just about God, that's the whole reason I made this thread. This is about arguing for your religion solely. Biblical Christianity and scientific evidence are incredibly conflicting.
That's true for every thing; but there is no one way, no matter what some people try to push on everyone else.
You're being horribly cryptic.
Your not showing anyone there 'fallacies', your merely putting forth your opinion on something and acting like it's a hard proven fact.
Post by
Adamsm
This isn't just about God, that's the whole reason I made this thread. This is about arguing for your religion solely. Biblical Christianity and scientific evidence are incredibly conflicting.
That's true for every thing; but there is no one way, no matter what some people try to push on everyone else.
You're being horribly cryptic.
Your not showing anyone there 'fallacies', your merely putting forth your opinion on something and acting like it's a hard proven fact.
How am I being cryptic? It's how I believe in the world; There is No One Way, no matter what anyone says; goes with something I said earlier; for all we know the original Creator is the same being for all the religions, and everyone just sees a different face depending on what they believe in.
Post by
Skreeran
This isn't just about God, that's the whole reason I made this thread. This is about arguing for your religion solely. Biblical Christianity and scientific evidence are incredibly conflicting.
That's true for every thing; but there is no one way, no matter what some people try to push on everyone else.
You're being horribly cryptic.
Your not showing anyone there 'fallacies', your merely putting forth your opinion on something and acting like it's a hard proven fact.
How am I being cryptic? It's how I believe in the world; There is No One Way, no matter what anyone says; goes with something I said earlier; for all we know the original Creator is the same being for all the religions, and everyone just sees a different face depending on what they believe in.Says who? I know many people who contend that their way is the only way. How do you know that there is more than one?
Post by
Orranis
This isn't just about God, that's the whole reason I made this thread. This is about arguing for your religion solely. Biblical Christianity and scientific evidence are incredibly conflicting.
That's true for every thing; but there is no one way, no matter what some people try to push on everyone else.
You're being horribly cryptic.
Your not showing anyone there 'fallacies', your merely putting forth your opinion on something and acting like it's a hard proven fact.
How am I being cryptic? It's how I believe in the world; There is No One Way, no matter what anyone says; goes with something I said earlier; for all we know the original Creator is the same being for all the religions, and everyone just sees a different face depending on what they believe in.
My only problem is that you're stating it as fact, when you berate me for doing the same.
I agree that there is no one way, you were just being way too vague and unspecific as to what you meant when you said 'way.' I believe that you can go through life believing anything and be a good person, however I do believe that only one person was right in the end.
Post by
Adamsm
Says who? I know many people who contend that their way is the only way. How do you know that there is more than one?
As I said, it's my belief, not that it's universally shared.
My only problem is that you're stating it as fact, when you berate me for doing the same.
I agree that there is no one way, you were just being way too vague and unspecific as to what you meant when you said 'way.' I believe that you can go through life believing anything and be a good person, however I do believe that only one person was right in the end.
Did you even read what I put, or did you just pick what you wanted to think was there;
My Personal Belief
is that there is 'No one way', and as for what you said at the end there... I don't believe that, I'm sure there are many answers so that different people can be right.
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