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What You Hope Will Happen to Garrosh.
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Post by
taurenmoo812
I wouldn't compare Thrall to Wolverine... after all, Thrall holds back on killing, which is something Logan has never done; if the simplest solution is to kill the other person, Logan will do that, why do you think he leads the new X-Force? It's not a bad comparison, when you go for the simple route; Garrosh feels it's easier to just kill his enemies then try to make peace with them.
Factors of wolverine, his sense of pride, his act of honor and respecting ones friends. And I said parts of professor x too.
To even suggest an inbred like Garrosh is anything like Wolverine is nieve at best. But if you want a better comparison. try victor creed.
Post by
Adamsm
Eh, not really; then you have the same thing; Sabertooth kills just for fun, as he is a full on psychopath, we haven't seen any tendencies from Garrosh towards that. Again though, I said the simplest comparison for Logan and Garrosh; they do have a similar out look on life.
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374287
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Post by
Ritmas
There is always dominant. You will never see equality anywhere in world.
And I could post a wall of text about Garrosh vs. Thrall. But I won't. Cause my point will be that Garrosh has a bit more + to wow, then thrall.
BUT! Why Saurfang isn't warchief? He is like > all. I remember pre tbc raids in org. Most raids skipped Saurfang, because he would just rape them.
Go play warcraft 3 and get you head out your backside, seriously, opinion or not you just jumped on the garrosh bandwagon and now think you know more about the lore then anyone.
Your fantasy about honor is just plain stupid. Played warcraft since warcraft I. And don't tell me what to do, if you talk bull*!@#. How Thrall is worlverine? He is like always out of combat, just talkin bull#$%^, that we live shall live in peace, but does absolutly nothin. What he did is just united Horde, I see nothin more.
The northrend was in Saurfangs and Garrosh hands, wich thrall did nothin about it.
Edit: You just ignore everything what everyone says, it's like:
You:Thrall is the best!
Someone else: No, he is not the best because....
You: Lol look at thrall he is so honorful!
Someone else: Just listen to me!
You: *watches tv* What did you say?
You live in fantasy world of thrall.
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382219
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Post by
taurenmoo812
There is always dominant. You will never see equality anywhere in world.
And I could post a wall of text about Garrosh vs. Thrall. But I won't. Cause my point will be that Garrosh has a bit more + to wow, then thrall.
BUT! Why Saurfang isn't warchief? He is like > all. I remember pre tbc raids in org. Most raids skipped Saurfang, because he would just rape them.
Go play warcraft 3 and get you head out your backside, seriously, opinion or not you just jumped on the garrosh bandwagon and now think you know more about the lore then anyone.
Your fantasy about honor is just plain stupid. Played warcraft since warcraft I. And don't tell me what to do, if you talk bull*!@#. How Thrall is worlverine? He is like always out of combat, just talkin bull#$%^, that we live shall live in peace, but does absolutly nothin. What he did is just united Horde, I see nothin more.
The northrend was in Saurfangs and Garrosh hands, wich thrall did nothin about it.
Edit: You just ignore everything what everyone says, it's like:
You:Thrall is the best!
Someone else: No, he is not the best because....
You: Lol look at thrall he is so honorful!
Someone else: Just listen to me!
You: *watches tv* What did you say?
You live in fantasy world of thrall.
At least I'm not someone whos definition of a character is based on the latest fashion trend. In other words, you just got hooked on the force feed garroshism that blizzards shoved down your throat. Don't talk to me like your definiton of a lore figure is anything but fickle.
Post by
Ritmas
There is always dominant. You will never see equality anywhere in world.
And I could post a wall of text about Garrosh vs. Thrall. But I won't. Cause my point will be that Garrosh has a bit more + to wow, then thrall.
BUT! Why Saurfang isn't warchief? He is like > all. I remember pre tbc raids in org. Most raids skipped Saurfang, because he would just rape them.
Go play warcraft 3 and get you head out your backside, seriously, opinion or not you just jumped on the garrosh bandwagon and now think you know more about the lore then anyone.
Your fantasy about honor is just plain stupid. Played warcraft since warcraft I. And don't tell me what to do, if you talk bull*!@#. How Thrall is worlverine? He is like always out of combat, just talkin bull#$%^, that we live shall live in peace, but does absolutly nothin. What he did is just united Horde, I see nothin more.
The northrend was in Saurfangs and Garrosh hands, wich thrall did nothin about it.
Edit: You just ignore everything what everyone says, it's like:
You:Thrall is the best!
Someone else: No, he is not the best because....
You: Lol look at thrall he is so honorful!
Someone else: Just listen to me!
You: *watches tv* What did you say?
You live in fantasy world of thrall.
At least I'm not someone whos definition of a character is based on the latest fashion trend. In other words, you just got hooked on the force feed garroshism that blizzards shoved down your throat. Don't talk to me like your definiton of a lore figure is anything but fickle.
Nope. Garrosh is more fun, more agressive, more pvp, more fighting, more world pvp, some action. Thrall long quest log, nothing to do.
Post by
taurenmoo812
Nope. Garrosh is more fun, more agressive, more pvp, more fighting, more world pvp, some action. Thrall long quest log, nothing to do.
Oh no, your not someone whos gotten strung up by the garroshism. Not at all. And plus, you didn't indicate if you had or hadn't played warcraft 3.
Post by
Ritmas
You are retarded. I played warcraft sine warcraft I. Why haven't I played III then?
And if I think that Garrosh will bring more action, then I'm garroshist? Well mister you are 2xretarded, cause I don't get your logic, so you are thrallist?
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374287
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Post by
Gnub
Let's try to keep the tone a bit more civilized, shall we? Heated debate is one thing, name-calling is something else.
Post by
Adamsm
Honestly all people are saying is Garrosh is a change of pace, makes the storyline progress instead of the all-sainted Thrall sitting his a$$ on his throne and talking about peace and the elements. If anything you should be excited 'moo. With Thrall handing over the reins (and if he indeed does then he's an accomplice to whatever trouble Garry stirs up in his absence) and going out he'll actually be doing something to progress his character and validate the Thrall-worship you and others seem to have.
Plus, at some point, there will be a quest that puts Thrall back into power.
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410715
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Post by
Adamsm
Honestly all people are saying is Garrosh is a change of pace, makes the storyline progress instead of the all-sainted Thrall sitting his a$$ on his throne and talking about peace and the elements. If anything you should be excited 'moo. With Thrall handing over the reins (and if he indeed does then he's an accomplice to whatever trouble Garry stirs up in his absence) and going out he'll actually be doing something to progress his character and validate the Thrall-worship you and others seem to have.
Plus, you know at some point, there will be a quest to put Thrall back into power; but again, I'm hoping we don't have to kill Garrosh at that point, just chastise him and let him remain as a military commander, seeing as he would have the experience to back up his boosting at that point.
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588688
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Post by
taurenmoo812
Honestly all people are saying is Garrosh is a change of pace, makes the storyline progress instead of the all-sainted Thrall sitting his a$$ on his throne and talking about peace and the elements. If anything you should be excited 'moo. With Thrall handing over the reins (and if he indeed does then he's an accomplice to whatever trouble Garry stirs up in his absence) and going out he'll actually be doing something to progress his character and validate the Thrall-worship you and others seem to have.
Plus, you know at some point, there will be a quest to put Thrall back into power; but again, I'm hoping we don't have to kill Garrosh at that point, just chastise him and let him remain as a military commander, seeing as he would have the experience to back up his boosting at that point.
Well this is the one thing I'll side you with here. Thrall is an amazing character, who as anyone saw in warcraft 3 and in the novels writen of him, that he's a character unlike any other, well characters like garrosh are just your a-typical savage orc or proudmoore your a-typical bias human. Its just the lazy ass writers who haven't done half the stuff they could with Thrall as they could have...
At the same time though, thats the mechanics of warcraft. your find most famous lore figures do sit on there ass and do nothing well a random adverturer goes and does it. Magni, Tyrande, Vol'jin, Cairne, all of them had such developed lore but had nothing to do, even less then Thrall or Varian, in world of warcraft.
really, the excuse of 'he sits on his ass' applies to nearly all wow figures, cause its not warcraft 3 where you control the lore figure and his forces.
Post by
Adamsm
i bet you he drinks demon blood some point in cata and for a while is a fel orc, then he has to be killed.
No, he won't; he hated that his father did that, he won't follow in his footsteps.
Well this is the one thing I'll side you with here. Thrall is an amazing character, who as anyone saw in warcraft 3 and in the novels writen of him, that he's a character unlike any other, well characters like garrosh are just your a-typical savage orc or proudmoore your a-typical bias human. Its just the lazy ass writers who haven't done half the stuff they could with Thrall as they could have...
At the same time though, thats the mechanics of warcraft. your find most famous lore figures do sit on there ass and do nothing well a random adverturer goes and does it. Magni, Tyrande, Vol'jin, Cairne, all of them had such developed lore but had nothing to do, even less then Thrall or Varian, in world of warcraft.
really, the excuse of 'he sits on his ass' applies to nearly all wow figures, cause its not warcraft 3 where you control the lore figure and his forces.
Thrall love aside... I agree that they should make the other Lore figures more active; actually have Tyrande there at the side of the Sentinel forces as they fight back against the orcs across Feralas, Desolace, Stonetalon and Ashenvale. Make Magni do more to help with the assault on Grim Batol and Deepholme. Have Vol'jin and his troll forces fighting against the Destroyer's forces across Kalimdor and other threats. Have Baine(as Carine is still MIA Lorewise), leading his people like he did during the Founding of Durotar, as an active leader.
Post by
taurenmoo812
i bet you he drinks demon blood some point in cata and for a while is a fel orc, then he has to be killed.
No, he won't; he hated that his father did that, he won't follow in his footsteps
Despite the fact he does seem to be doing almost exactly that you mean. Garrosh has proven he has the same rage issues his father did without the demons blood.
Post by
Adamsm
i bet you he drinks demon blood some point in cata and for a while is a fel orc, then he has to be killed.
No, he won't; he hated that his father did that, he won't follow in his footsteps
Despite the fact he does seem to be doing almost exactly that you mean. Garrosh has proven he has the same rage issues his father did without the demons blood.
Beyond the Black Metal, I don't see Garrosh being stupid enough to drink the demon blood; that would completely annihilate any support he has among the orcs, not to mention that doing so would have Saurfang, Drek'thar, and who knows how many others coming to take his head. Yes he's thick, but he's not that thick; after all, he's seen the way the original Demon Horde treated his people... do you really think he become something he hates?
Post by
taurenmoo812
Beyond the Black Metal, I don't see Garrosh being stupid enough to drink the demon blood; that would completely annihilate any support he has among the orcs, not to mention that doing so would have Saurfang, Drek'thar, and who knows how many others coming to take his head. Yes he's thick, but he's not that thick; after all, he's seen the way the original Demon Horde treated his people... do you really think he become something he hates?
Don't mean to drag this out here, but you really can't put a tag on how stupid Garrosh will be given he is still an undeveloped character. If Kael'thas was stupid enough to become a pwn of the legion, or Illidan turn himself into a demon, its just as likely for someone like Garrosh, who lets face it, the last two where smarter then he is, would do something the same.
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