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Post by
Orranis
I'm saying that there is plenty of current music that is good and even great and, more importantly, current music is actually relevant to the time period you are in, which allows you to feel a connection with your music, and that listening only to the past causes you to miss out on the great things that are happening now.
Who's to say that I can't connect with music from the past? Kurt Cobain died in 1994, and yet the Nirvana still portrays a much more realistic picture of an angst-filled teenagers life then Justin Bieber or Miley Cyrus, which is more a fantastical dreamland for teenagers to hang onto then an actual connection, though it the idea is that it feels like one.
also, it means you can actually get a live show to see, and a good one too, instead of watching an old man grind the last bit of cartilage off his arthritic bones while badly singing his past hits in an effort to remember "the glory days" instead of going home to spend time with his grandchildren before he dies.
Besides for a 'greatest hits', Metallica is not planned to release any more albums, which is by know means current, is still touring, and I've seen their shows. Iron Maiden has band-members older then my parents (they have hell'a energy.) Even so, who's to say you can't enjoy both? Sure G&R is gone, but that doesn't stop me from going to a Slash concert, or even something totally unrelated (i.e. Metric, The Decemberists... The point is that you don't have to limit yourself to one time period or another. Age is irrelevant if they're good.)
Post by
Adamsm
Kurt Cobain died in 1994, and yet the Nirvana still portrays a much more realistic picture of an angst-filled teenagers life then Justin Bieber or Miley Cyrus, which is more a fantastical dreamland for teenagers to hang onto then an actual connection, though it the idea is that it feels like one./twitch Your kidding right? Nirvana is Grunge, not Teeny Bopper Pop; get what you are saying, but you choose a really really really bad example there; name aside, Smells Like Teen Spirit doesn't have much to do with the teen subculture.
Post by
Orranis
Kurt Cobain died in 1994, and yet the Nirvana still portrays a much more realistic picture of an angst-filled teenagers life then Justin Bieber or Miley Cyrus, which is more a fantastical dreamland for teenagers to hang onto then an actual connection, though it the idea is that it feels like one./twitch Your kidding right? Nirvana is Grunge, not Teeny Bopper Pop; get what you are saying, but you choose a really really really bad example there; name aside, Smells Like Teen Spirit doesn't have much to do with the teen subculture.
/twitch
Sorry, I said Nirvana and someone said Smells Like Teen Spirit.
/sigh
I was thinking more About A Girl. And I don't see your point... You have to take into perspective the idea that Nirvana used to be what you'd see when you turned on MTV. It was hardly an underground genre.
Post by
Adamsm
My point is your comparing apples to oranges......I can't ever seeing any Teen Bopper singing something like Polly(go look up the actual story for that), Heart Shaped Box or Rape Me.....the Grunge genre was pioneered by Nirvana. And About A Girl...well, let's have a look shall we?
Meaning
According to Chad Channing, Nirvana's drummer around the time of Bleach, Cobain didn't have a title for the song when he first brought it into the studio. When asked what it was about, Cobain replied, "It's about a girl."
The girl in question was Tracy Marander, Cobain's then-girlfriend, with whom he lived at the time. Apparently, Marander had asked Cobain why he had never written a song for her, and Cobain responded with "About a Girl". The song addresses the couple's fractured relationship, caused by Cobain's refusal to get a job, or to share cleaning duties at their apartment (which housed many of his pets). During arguments on the subject, Cobain would occasionally threaten to move into his car, at which point Marander would usually relent.
Cobain never told Marander that he had written "About a Girl" for her. In the 1998 Nick Broomfield documentary Kurt and Courtney, Marander revealed that she only found out after reading Come as You Are: The Story of Nirvana
Post by
LookOut
People who dislike
Pink Floyd
? /sigh
(I'd link Shine On You Crazy Diamond, but people who dislike it probably don't like slow build-ups ...)
Or old music is just better than new music.
^this. At least as far as radio is concerned.
Post by
donnymurph
At least as far as radio is concerned.This sentence is important. Music is alive and kicking.
Don't like long build ups? Relax man,
have a cigar
!
Post by
LookOut
At least as far as radio is concerned.This sentence is important. Music is alive and kicking.
Yeah if you know where to look :p The general population gets crap (imho, taste differs obviously) injected into their ears.
Post by
Orranis
My point is your comparing apples to oranges.....
My point is that I'm not. I'm comparing them not because they're both about teens, but because they were both the 'mainstream' music for teens at some point or another.
Post by
Adamsm
My point is your comparing apples to oranges.....
My point is that I'm not. I'm comparing them not because they're both about teens, but because they were both the 'mainstream' music for teens at some point or another.
Uh huh, alright...you just keep on thinking that.....
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Post by
Orranis
My point is your comparing apples to oranges.....
My point is that I'm not. I'm comparing them not because they're both about teens, but because they were both the 'mainstream' music for teens at some point or another.
Uh huh, alright...you just keep on thinking that.....
How constructive.
My point is that just because it's old doesn't arbitrarily mean that we can't relate, and just because it's modern doesn't mean we can.
Post by
Monday
At least as far as radio is concerned.
Meh. I DJ for a station and we play good music.
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Post by
Orranis
Yes, you can relate to some older music, but can you relate to a song like "Ohio" by Neil Young, which is about the shooting of some vietnam-war protestors in a meaningful way? not really, it's about a situation that no longer exists. On the other hand, a song like "
My Girls
" by the Animal Collective, which is about the importance of family over worldly things and was released in the middle of the recession, is easy for someone growing up in the current world to relate to.
also, yes, good music is generally timeless, but that doesn't mean you should dismiss modern music as bad without putting the effort in.
So, you know, exactly what I said?
And that's not to say that I can't connect Neil Young to the world around me? It's hardly like social injustices have just up and evaporated. Sure, it's a different situation, but I still yell the lyrics to
this song
in History class whenever the need overtakes me (we're studying the coal miner strikes in the late 1800's - early1900's.)
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Post by
LookOut
At least as far as radio is concerned.
Meh. I DJ for a station and we play good music.
Radio stations over here usually have about 1 hour of what I classify as good music. The rest of the day, it's the top 50 played over and over and over and over again.
Ofc at set times of the year, they play a top 2000 or something to count down to the new year or christmas or easter or whatever. That's always worth a listen. Or
"The Heaviest List"
(it's in dutch, but don't worry, just scroll down to check out the list), which is awesome.
Post by
donnymurph
Don't you listen to techno? How the hell does anyone relate to techno?
I'm not who you were addressing but IDC.
I listen to a plethora of different genres, and I gotta say, the only thing I "relate to" in music is how good or bad it is. I couldn't give a crap what was the inspiration behind the song, don't care for lyrics much (makes death metal a lot easier to listen to), or how many drugs the composer was on.
All I care about is how the sounds coming out of my speakers
affect me physically
. So if a particular techno artist has made some sweet riff that really makes my spine tingle -
example
- then I can "relate" to how awesome that song just made me feel.
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