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Post by
kemppy
ok i am not going to start this off by saying i am the best hunter out there, but i do know my better dps is when i spam Volley with the new focus system does that mean i cant stand there and spam it all fight and do good dps, does this mean that single target dps hunters will finally own
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Post by
kemppy
is this good (like do away with huntard crap finally)
Post by
hellshadow
ok i am not going to start this off by saying i am the best hunter out there, but i do know my better dps is when i spam Volley with the new focus system does that mean i cant stand there and spam it all fight and do good dps, does this mean that single target dps hunters will finally own
No, it doesn't mean we will "own" at single-target.
It DOES, however, make us able to rule out who has only AoE'd all of their life from people who have actual skill at focus fire; a skill that MOST do not know at all. This means that most hunters will learn that they fail at single target, ragequit and make DKs/Paladins.
Post by
Gnomegrinder
ok i am not going to start this off by saying i am the best hunter out there, but i do know my better dps is when i spam Volley with the new focus system does that mean i cant stand there and spam it all fight and do good dps, does this mean that single target dps hunters will finally own
No, it doesn't mean we will "own" at single-target.
It DOES, however, make us able to rule out who has only AoE'd all of their life from people who have actual skill at focus fire; a skill that MOST do not know at all. This means that most hunters will learn that they fail at single target, ragequit and make DKs/Paladins.
Why DK's and Paladins? I get sick and tired of people branding those who play them as morons who want "easymode".
Post by
Hunger
You won't be able to spam Volley anymore, no.
Besides, I doubt Cataclysm heroics will be the AoE-fest that Wrath ones were.
Some mobs will be more dangerous than others, and those you can focus on and kill faster, while still using things like Multi-Shot to do more damage to multiple enemies.
It'll be more similiar to the ICC heroics, hopefully.
Post by
Rasputin941827
Speaking as a hunter who spams volley on pretty much all trash in heroics....cool!
Post by
Pwntiff
Players who roll DKs, Paladins, and Hunters aren't necessarily people who want "ezmode," but given the current nature of the classes, it's not hard to imagine that at least some of them never had to turn their brain on while "learning" the class so they may be considered sub-par in some aspects of end-game (like single-target DPS). Not saying it's true for everybody, but stereotypes exist for a reason.
On topic: As a Boomkin, I'm glad Cata Heroics are supposedly going to break out of the mold of AoE orgy lol-roics, because
while MOBS >= 3
Hurricane
loop
isn't fun.
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Post by
ljudsnubbe
Why DK's and Paladins? I get sick and tired of people branding those who play them as morons who want "easymode".
Paladins and DKs (and hunters imo) are:
- Easy to level (low downtime/high survivability)
- Have simple rotations (or at least, can do 90% of max-potential with a very easy rotations)
- Very fun to play
This attracts all players.
But, if you pick a squishy class, and die constantly during leveling, the morons stop playing the class because its to complicated for them, and continue until they find a class that fits them better: DK, Pala; Hunter.
Lol, I think I died maximum 5 times leveling my hunter from 1-70, just using 2 buttons (BM-macros ftw!). Palas and DKs... pretty much the same
Not saying all DK/Palas/Hunters are idiot, absolutely not,
but the idiots keep playing the classes because they can do
ok
even with half a brain
.
Post by
Pwntiff
Yeah, I rarely died on my Fire Mage until level 30, then I started learning Mage kiting, and now mobs barely hit me unless I let them, but that's elaborates a little more on my explanation.
Post by
Huludicidal
Forcing bad hunters to learn a proper rotation and manage their Focus should thin out the herd.
And now the real horror begins.
This is when they begin to think.
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Post by
FarseerLolotea
Why DK's and Paladins? I get sick and tired of people branding those who play them as morons who want "easymode".Yes, this. I started leveling my paladin because my guild at the time needed more tanks. It wasn't until later that I realized how much fun paladins were to play.
Which is why I've also got my guy over on a RP server whom I'm actually
leveling
as a tankadin rather than starting out ret and working my way into it.
(Captcha was "and tropes." Mwahahahaha...)
Post by
kemppy
i have a DK (unholy) a pally (ret/prot) and a BM hunter all 80, i was lucky, more than most, i was taught from the start by alot of people how to use each class well, i also will admit i "tamper" and "tinker" around with different talents to figure what works for me (hence why i am not frost on my DK, or MM and Surv on my hunter) but i seem to still find people yell at me in the icc heroics "WHY DIDNT YOU VOLLEY" and then when i show dps meter they call me a huntard ( normally it will go)
Trastin(dk friend)......................................................4573.32
Mightykemppy(me)..................................................4432.67
joe bob (the guy calling me a huntard).......................4344.56
Manofiron(pally tank/friend).......................................3237.59
and i hope (hence why i started this to see what others thought) that i wont go down but i will find that i am better again at single target
Post by
NeoBlackheart
One of the things you got to realize is Volley is a channel spell so while channeling volley your focus will regerate most likely.
Post by
kemppy
so will that mean it will be a part of a normal rotation Serpant sting, arcane shat, aimed shot, volley, steady shot sort of thing
on a side note, hunter starting from 1 will be better off than those at 80 they get to go through the new system and figure it out while they lvl instead of while the raid
Post by
geniusdude
Hunters will be able to spam Volley
Volley cost-30 focus
focus regen-6/sec
volley base duration-6 sec
so during a volley you will regen 36 focus
the haste you get will increase your focus regen, but also reduce cast-time of volley
im guessing it will be about equal
because if haste didnt increase focus regen then you would need over 513 haste for cost to = regen
513=16.6%
which would reduce the cast time to 5 sec
the only thing that may change this is various buffs that decrease cast time but dont give focus regen
Post by
Pwntiff
What do you think levels 80-85 will be? Raiding?
Post by
HoleofArt
Hunters will be able to spam Volley
Volley cost-30 focus
focus regen-6/sec
volley base duration-6 sec
so during a volley you will regen 36 focus
the haste you get will increase your focus regen, but also reduce cast-time of volley
im guessing it will be about equal
because if haste didnt increase focus regen then you would need over 513 haste for cost to = regen
513=16.6%
which would reduce the cast time to 5 sec
the only thing that may change this is various buffs that decrease cast time but dont give focus regen
You'll still be able to spam, because of this reason. Also, if you watched the Tankspot Video on the new Blackrock dungeon, you'll notice there was a hunter in the group, and on the bigger pulls, he was able to spam Volley just fine.
Hopefully though, with the changes to focus, it'll become even more apparent who can play their class and who can't. Tired of all the hunters who are just plain bad.
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