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Post by
Adamsm
It should also be noted that consuming demon's blood is not required to become tainted (green) orcs.
Okay. Now I understand; originally orcs were brown. Then they drank demon blood, they started their mutation, getting the green pigment. Though, this seems also to be genetic, since Thrall is green too, even he has never drank demonic blood*. And then, if the orc continued consuming the demonic blood he would eventually turn into a fel orc. Great! Thanks for clarifying this, I've been wondering what is causing the green color (I understood that even only warlock presence could change into green)... :P
* referring to the quote
Not completely; no member of the Frostwolves drank the Blood; their green skin came from the corruption of the Warlock magics and the fel taint that steadily covered Draenor, killing the land and affecting them deep inside. The Mag'har are the original colours because they were a group of orcs quarantined due to the red pox, and the location of their main camp was far enough away from the tainted areas to escape the skin and body corruption.
Post by
GVHB
It should also be noted that consuming demon's blood is not required to become tainted (green) orcs.
Okay. Now I understand; originally orcs were brown. Then they drank demon blood, they started their mutation, getting the green pigment. Though, this seems also to be genetic, since Thrall is green too, even he has never drank demonic blood*. And then, if the orc continued consuming the demonic blood he would eventually turn into a fel orc. Great! Thanks for clarifying this, I've been wondering what is causing the green color (I understood that even only warlock presence could change into green)... :P
* referring to the quote
Not completely; no member of the Frostwolves drank the Blood; their green skin came from the corruption of the Warlock magics and the fel taint that steadily covered Draenor, killing the land and affecting them deep inside. The Mag'har are the original colours because they were a group of orcs quarantined due to the red pox, and the location of their main camp was far enough away from the tainted areas to escape the skin and body corruption.
Then Thrall is green because his parents were affected by the fel taint and the red pox allowed the Mag'har to maintain their original skin tone.
Post by
Adamsm
Yes, Thrall was born after Draka and Durotan had already been tainted. And yeah, the Mag'har are what they are because of the isolation of where the camp was.
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Post by
Skreeran
But... I like Garrosh. He's finally bringing some backbone back to the Horde.Saurfang picks his teeth with Garrosh's backbone.
Post by
FarseerLolotea
But... I like Garrosh. He's finally bringing some backbone back to the Horde.We've seen nothing of his backbone. Just his
mouth
.
Saurfang picks his teeth with Garrosh's backbone.Also, this.
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Post by
Rankkor
But... I like Garrosh. He's finally bringing some backbone back to the Horde.Saurfang picks his teeth with Garrosh's backbone.
^this :P
an even better Saurfang Fact:
most people think that when saurfang cleaves, his axe cuts the meat of his prey. In reality, the meat itself auto-separates itself to avoid the cleave (Like a mass-scale Mitosis), it's a subconcious self-defence mecanism against him, since anything hurts less than a Saurfang Cleave.
another good'one:
For those who ask "why saurfang doesn't use Titan's Grip to dualwield 2 axes", the answer is simple.
he uses his axe with his right hand only, and his left hand is his second weapon, thus he's already dualwielding.
getting back on topic:
Garrosh isn't a wolsey, because if that was the case, the writers woudn't had forced us to hate him.
in TBC he was a really neutral, you either pitied him, showed simpaty for his situation (having a bad rep but not for something he did, but rather for something a relative did, kinda like the close kin of the nazi soldiers on the aftermatch of world war 2) or you simply ignored him.
on WOTLK they FORCED us to hate him, by making him dismissive, a jerk-ass, loudmouth, pushing bully with no brains and pure macho-bravado crap.
they added just about all the negative elements a character can have (from an inflated ego, to a lack of empathy to his fellows, to racism, facism, tunnel vission, stupidity, recklessness, disrespect, prone to verbal abuse, ect ect ect) and ZERO redeeming features, not a single nice feature was added for him on WOTLK.
Varian would be more of a candidate for a wolsey, as they added a crap-load of negative stuff on his character and yet wanted the alliance players to like him, wich had a mixed effect, as some love him, some hate his guts. on Garrosh however, just about everyone hates him.
this is prone to change in CATA if that stonetalon quest is an indicative, as they wanna show to us that Garrosh INDEED does have some nice features, just that those features weren't shown in WOTLK.
Post by
brunorocha
He really does love his people and he wants what's best for them. The Horde is living in a desert at the moment, without any nearby source of lumber (at least until Cataclysm), while the Night Elves are sitting up there in prosperity and refusing to share the trees that the Horde needs for shelter and warmth. At least, that's how Garrosh sees it. What he wants is prosperity and happiness for his people. I share his sentiments here.
Garrosh's solution to this, however, is something I do not agree with. Garrosh's solution to his people not having enough resources to meet their needs is to simply take the resources from the people who refused to share them. If the Night Elves won't give up their trees willingly, the orcs will take them, and they will take more than just the trees for the Elves arrogance. To Garrosh, it's not just that the elves are refusing resources from people who need them, but they are in fact challenging the Horde and insulting them. By openly fighting to prevent the harvesting of lumber, the Night Elves are saying that they can defeat the Horde, and use force to keep the orcs from taking something that they need. To Garrosh, the Night Elves underestimate the Horde: they think that the Horde is too weak to take what it needs. And because the Elves are insulting the Horde in this way, he wants to take more than just lumber from them. They don't deserve the utopian natural wealth that they have. He wants to take Kalimdor from them, and to give it to his people, who deserve it because of their strength and the fact that they have weathered through famine and desert heat and cold nights. In his mind, the way things are is all wrong... the strong, proud, noble orcs are living in a harsh, sparse desert, while the spoiled, stingy elves are living it up in a massive forest with more lumber and game than they know what to do with. So he intends to fix the situation.
well lets do it this way: if someday the horde and alliance become friends, the orcs cut off trees for lumber, and then the Night Elves REGROW them. as simple as ganking a newb.
Post by
brunorocha
he wants to destroy the Night Elves empire
well i do belive they are a CULT, cuz...well...they are being led by a PRIEST(ess)!
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Post by
Hydralisk
Garrosh Hellscream is my hero.. I'm just throwing it out there.. and as we all know.. haters gotta hate :D
Post by
FarseerLolotea
well i do belive they are a CULT, cuz...well...they are being led by a PRIEST(ess)!Theocracy =/= cult.
Didn't he yell at sylvanas? Yes, and he insulted half the wolves in Durotar in the process.
Post by
Skreeran
Garrosh Hellscream is my hero.. I'm just throwing it out there.. and as we all know.. haters gotta hate :DYep, and Garrosh is a championship hater... ;)
Post by
Quilan
Garrosh is the new Obama, you can blame him for everything. Let the me being 'racist' comments begin.
rechaptcha: Before lowe
Post by
Monday
Well, I don't exactly like Garrosh, but I'm looking forward to pseudo-redemption. I.E. He doesn't become a major good guy but he isn't a %^&*!@bag either.
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Post by
Garenzo
HES A IDIOT! I SO HOPE THE TROLLS KILL HIM
They won't. Do/view the rest of the chain and you'll know why... seems everyone is jumping to conclusions about him because that first Vol'jin convo and Cairn rumors leaked too early. :S
Post by
idkfaceroll
when exactly did garrosh bash sylvanas/half of the wolves in durotar?
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