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Fresh DK,...when are they viable as tanks?
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On my dk I started running as a tank at 58. Was it hard to hold threat on groups without dnd, yep, was it doable, also yep.
If you want to run as a tank do so.
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DraconisAerius
Once you have DnD its all gravey. Once you have Dark Command its even easier. DK tanking is win.
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apocalypsa
DONT. TANK. UNTILL. 60.
DONT. TANK. NORTHREND. UNTIL. full cobalt set.
DONT. TANK. 80 dungeons. UNTIL. DEF CAP.
^ sums it up.
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DONT. TANK. UNTILL. 60.
DONT. TANK. NORTHREND. UNTIL. full cobalt set.
DONT. TANK. 80 dungeons. UNTIL. DEF CAP.
^ sums it up.
1. Opinion, I've tanked at 58 and ran with level 58 tanks; everything worked well.
2. Opinion, full cobalt is not needed; there are definitely some pieces you can swap 68-ish OL with.
3. Duh?
Widely accepted opinion that prevents making Deathtard comments rain from the sky on new tanks. Also prevents unnecessary fail and overly slow dungeon runs due to the healer going OOM often because you were too lazy/cheap/stupid/whatever to get the cobalt set.
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karlusdavius
i would recommend unholy spec to tank also.
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apocalypsa
i would recommend unholy spec to tank also.
I would recommend you dont listen to this.
Frost>unholy/blood. Unholy has good aoe threat, but no burst and even blood's burst is better.
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DraconisAerius
i would recommend unholy spec to tank also.
I tanked 58-75 as Unholy and had no issues at all. Well other than people complaining about it. But really it worked well, and they usually shut up pretty fast.
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Doring
Widely accepted opinion that prevents making Deathtard comments rain from the sky on new tanks. Also prevents unnecessary fail and overly slow dungeon runs due to the healer going OOM often because you were too lazy/cheap/stupid/whatever to get the cobalt set.
It was once widely accepted opinion in the United States that 'blacks were inferior to whites'. Widely accepted opinion, no matter how much ignorant folks like to cling to it, is still not a fact.
My server has an inflated economy, things that go for 2-3 k on other servers go for around 6-8k on mine. You can get the cobalt set for around 15 gold per piece, I'm cheap and that's still affordable. I also have a blacksmith, so it's actually not an issue.
Never actually had a healer go oom in a dungeon, unless they were overly nice and we had a lot of stupid dps. I don't know, maybe survivability cool-downs are hard to manage for some folks.
And you still manage to be a feminine hygiene product while spouting manure and being wrong. Who would have thought?
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woohaa
So umm for those of you that are like...."hey i tanked before 60 and did just fine," do you even realize what kind of advice your giving? Sure there's always going to be exceptions that CAN do it. However, I CAN drive my car with my feet but is it smart? no...and neither is tanking before 60. Why? Because your only taunt has a 35second cooldown and you don't get your best aoe threat ability till 60.
I healed and dps'd at 58 and 59 on my druid against DK tanks and it was terrible. The only good thing was healing is so OP that i could keep people alive. Unfortunately all that healing caused too much threat and i ended up tanking mobs. Your opening rotation is
IT/PS/Pest/BB/DS/(RS's).
The issue is that people are used to palys/wars/druids all having their tanking abilities and being able to generate a good amount of threat within the first 3-5 seconds. Your opening 7.5 seconds generates crap for threat, except for the 1 target that got hit by IT. If you lose agro before the 10seconds it takes for your runes to come off CD you only have one 35sec taunt to rely on. Whereas druids, warriors, and palys all have 2-3 taunts and some being aoe taunts at that. LFD generates the largest amount of retards WoW has ever seen and you will have to tank for them, with less tanking abilities then the other 3 tank classes. You will be compared to them and most people will not wait 10seconds for you to get complete agro. If you wish to test what i'm saying go ahead and try to tank at 58. It already sucks when you don't have HB...try it with no DnD and no short CD taunt.
Yes you CAN tank at 58 and 59...however it's not smart to do so...
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apocalypsa
@LosRojo: Most black people were inferior in terms of education, social level and lots of other stuff. Yes, whites made them to be but they were inferior.
The same goes for unholy, but even if PUGS werent accustomed to fail unholy tanks, itd still be sub-par.
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