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Need help dealing with a Holy Priest friend.
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Post by
wildx22
Well yay she's using Circle of Healing this time lol. But her heals are a huuuuuge margin behind the other one. Ouch x_x
Post by
donnymurph
Don't even need to look at her spell breakdown. She died to Blistering Cold, the easiest mechanic in the fight. If she can't handle Blistering Cold, she can't handle Defile. She DEFINITELY can't handle a double-down.
Based on that alone, you should drop her. I'm on my break at work and don't have time to look at her spell usage, but I will when I get home.
Post by
donnymurph
Found your friend on the armory... She glyphed for CoH but her spec is still disgusting. Looking at the Sindra attempt 1 now...
First thing I notice, your active time was around 100%, hers was 75% (because she died). So you spent 33% more time active than she did, HOWEVER you cast twice as many direct heals as her, and had more than TRIPLE the amount of HoT ticks she did. She is not casting anywhere near enough.
You spiked as high as 14k HPS whereas her highest "spike" (lol) was less than 6k.
Specced and glyphed for PW:S, she cast it 3 times. 42 flash heal casts, 67% overheal, tell her to ditch that completely. Flash heal is nothing but a mana-free global that may save someone's life. Or a tank heal.
Something interesting:
Elviira's mana gains
Not much going on there right?
My mana gains in 25-man this week.
She has Sliver of Pure Ice, which I use for BQL, but she didn't touch hers once. She is an alchemist but didn't use one mana pot. Might seem irrelevant, but more mana CDs=more casting+less spirit gems=more throughput.
One thing I will point out though: she used holy nova on Sindra where you didn't. Holy nova is awesome on that fight.
Looking at her BQL log, it looks okay, good uptime, decent HPS, good spell selection. I wonder about no Divine Hymn - it absolutely eats the first (harder hitting) bloodbolt whirl. Of course BQL is nowhere near as pressuring on a healer as Sindra is.
Anyway, that's my thoughts for now.
EDIT: I'm a baddie I got hit by Malleable Goo :(
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312967
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Post by
donnymurph
Gonna disagree with some of that. He took 2.5 seconds to die on LDW, plenty of time for a lot of healing. Perfectly salvageable, healer fail.
DK tank died on Sindra attempt 2 due to Ice Tomb, he had 12k HP when he was hit. Healer fail at topping off and pre-hotting. EDIT: Although considering the warrior tank died 10 seconds prior, maybe the RL had called a wipe. I read the DK death before the Warrior death :/
Warrior tank died on Sindra attempt 2 due to a 40k frost breath. Which is only 2-3 stacks of the buffet. Healer fail.
Post by
wildx22
Why is Holy Nova good on Sindra? Isn't it a pretty weak heal? Or is to proc Divine Aegis?
Post by
donnymurph
It's good because everyone is bunched up and taking slow ticking damage. It heals for around 2k. Also, it helps with DPS on the frost tombs (if your DPS actually needs the help, which they shouldn't).
By saying it's "awesome" I probably overvalued it, but it definitely has it's worth in that fight. Remember as well that it's party-only
And no a DA off a 3k holy nova crit would be a waste of time. Easy Surge of Light procs though, but ofc the baddie we're discussing doesn't spec it.
Post by
Kataly
I had a nice response to your posts but my power died thanks to the !@#$ty weather here.
In short, our warrior dps plays like he's suicidal. I healer failed on our second attempt on sindra, despite frostblocks being a mile from her head. Aand, yeah, I'll repost when I can actually use my cpu now.
Thanks for looking over the logs with me. Helps a ton to know where even I can improve and try to help fix fails on our runs.
Post by
donnymurph
One more thing. You said you're going disc for LK. That means you HAVE to take a destro lock, because you won't down LK without replenishment. You mentioned in your OP that you use a Demo lock, IDK if it was an accident but yeah, without you as shadow, you'd need a destro lock. Or dump the *!@#ty fury warrior for a ret pally. Ret pallies are also great for easy drudge ghoul management in P1 of LK.
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Post by
Kataly
To clear something up, Menchi is NOT a tank.
Blakkenstein and Crushalot were our two tanks. Whe Blakk died, we declared wipe, because two tombs popped up not seconds after his death. Again, I claimed healer fail on not healing blakk - don't know what was happening with our paladin healer, he didn't say he was running to LoS. Our blocks were being placed at the very tip of his tail - people weren't running next to the head to place them. Was a lot of execution fail here.
Saevio died on our first attempt because he chose to try to LoS the blast, and got caught on the Ice tomb, instead of just full on running out of range.
I wasn't joking when i said that lock normally rolls demo - but this was our resto shaman from last sundays attempts. He came on his lock(alfear) because we needed the ranged. The normally demo warlock was on Wiggo. the combat rogue is Blakkenstein. We expected Alfear to be tanking, but Crush (the resto druid i said would help compose our LK healing team) wanted to tank. ...God i hope that made sense.
Saevio tend to be very suicidal in his playstyle. He goes balls to the wall on the first second of the fight, and that problem was exacerbated by the use of Tricks on him for the first few bosses. It's just how he does. For LDW, however, they got aggro because the warrior's taunt was resisted. Not really a serious deal.
From what I'm told, we're dropping Elviira, and inheriting a hunter. However, it's uncertain if our Crush is going to bring his resto druid and have Alfear tank on his paladin, or if he'll stay on Crush and have Alfear play his resto shaman. Either way, I'll force the hunter to go surv for replen.
Thanks for spotting a lot of that. I'll talk to the guys about the things that we can improve on. <3
Post by
Pachuca
Honestly, it sounds like you guys seriously need to communicate better over your Ventrilo (or whatever voice chat you use, if any).
Every time my guild does Sindragosa Phase 3, our two tank healers (myself, and a holy paladin) call out over Vent who will be "staying out to heal the tank" and who will be "clearing stacks of Mystic Buffet". Basically we take turns every time there's a new ice block. One of us will stay out and heal the tank while the other clears his stacks, then switch for the next ice block.
Communication is a huge factor.
Post by
Kataly
Honestly, it sounds like you guys seriously need to communicate better over your Ventrilo (or whatever voice chat you use, if any).
Every time my guild does Sindragosa Phase 3, our two tank healers (myself, and a holy paladin) call out over Vent who will be "staying out to heal the tank" and who will be "clearing stacks of Mystic Buffet". Basically we take turns every time there's a new ice block. One of us will stay out and heal the tank while the other clears his stacks, then switch for the next ice block.
Communication is a huge factor.Completely agreed. We're usually really good about it, but it just didn't happen when the tank died on our second sindy attempt. I normally don't need to clear my buffet stacks till about 18 or so (I use 2 off pieces of frost resist and a resistance flask, in addition to the frost resist aura), and even then I only need to LoS for a couple seconds before the debuff falls off. Our pally healer is gonna grab a couple pieces as well. It should make healing it much easier since we don't have to worry about our debuff all the time.
But alas, I'll try to get our raid to be more vocal about what they're doing during the sindy encounter.
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Post by
donnymurph
From what I'm told, we're dropping Elviira, and inheriting a hunter. However, it's uncertain if our Crush is going to bring his resto druid and have Alfear tank on his paladin, or if he'll stay on Crush and have Alfear play his resto shaman. Either way, I'll force the hunter to go surv for replen.
That brings about another problem. Yes, a hunter (or a rogue with Anesthetic Poison) is a must for the fight, but as survival, he has no interrupt if he's not a tauren of blood elf. So basically, if he isn't one of those races and gets Soul Harvest, he'd better be doing some solid DPS to get the Spirit Warden down quickly. I'd hate to see you get RNG'ed out of your title. On the other hand, if you are making it to P3 and wipe due to RNG alone, you're probably pretty safe in assuming you'll have your title within an hour.
Post by
wildx22
There is nothing wrong with bringing an SV hunter. Replacing a baddy holy heals with a strong RDPS will definitely help with getting the Valkrys down. Our SV hunter has never had any problem getting the Spirit Warden down, interrupt is definitely not a must. Guess I'm being defensive because my main is a hunter. :P
Again, I claimed healer fail on not healing blakk - don't know what was happening with our paladin healer, he didn't say he was running to LoS.
Even without communication, everyone needs to take some initiative if you want to down the hard bosses. There's been cases where we've been unfortunate to have a $%^& pally healer that LoS's when tanks are dropping, so I disregard my stacks and run to save their lives. Even once, the pally left in the middle of our Sindra fight because the RL announced he would be kicked for bad mechanics. We still downed it with 9man. If your group is too rigid, things will be hard. Communication has not always been available to us because of people with broken mics and lack of access to Vent.
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