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Post by
LookOut
Ya, GL is around 5.4k gs (don't remember average iL) and with expertise in the mid 30's I could take away from it abit but crit is high and dodge is decent I'll take from all 3 abit and dump into mastery.
Wait wait, everyone is advising you to leave your crit be, and now you're saying you're gonna reforge some? No no no no!
Just your haste, dodge, and hit above the cap (and expertise over the cap if you really must, but I'm not for it ...)
Edit: EJ says to reforge crit to mastery as well huh? Well screw them, I'll go for more threat/deeps and slightly more procs instead of larger absorbs. Guess I'm a failbear then, huh?
Post by
pelf
If you do decide to go rant at EJ, let us know where you posted it so we can see how long it takes them to add a post for you in the Banhammer forum
:)
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Post by
Sokken
i was a bit curious to how much mastery acctually does. and i did some maths (i really suck at maths)
The numbers i came up with for me is:
Health in raid: about 93k which gives a
Vengeance
fully stacked of an extra 9.3kAP
and last time i checked i was about 18k AP fully stacked in last icc i did
so thats an AP pool of 18k right. and
Savage Defence
adds 65% of ap to absorb. with a Mastery of 14.62 that adds another 58% to my shield making it 123% of my AP to a shield.
that would mean every time savage defence is up it absorbs 123% x 18000AP = 22k
is this about right or am i missing something obvious?
ofc your vengance wont be fully stacked all the time but this is a best case scenario. like festergut
Festergut World of Logs
was a few weeks back and my mastery wasnt as high then. and i only tanked half the fight so numbers are kinda wierd as i was kitty the other half. but gives you an idéa of how much savage defence does if you klick the Healing done tab
had another look and noticed something i didnt see before.
(Mastery tooltip reads)
"Increases the damage absorbed by your Savage Defence ability by 58%. Each point of mastery increases the absorb by an additional 4%"
So inf act my math is probably wrong. it would instead be
65% of my AP which is 18000 x 65% = 11700 x 58% = 6786 + 11700 = 18486 absorbed each Savage Defence.
Is this correct or am i in fact way off?
Post by
pelf
I'm not sure how the bear Mastery is applied to the SD numbers, myself. Did you check the EJ bear thread?
Also, an easier way to express that last math would be...
18000 * 0.65 = 11700 * 1.58 = 18486
Post by
Sokken
I'm not sure how the bear Mastery is applied to the SD numbers, myself. Did you check the EJ bear thread?
Also, an easier way to express that last math would be...
18000 * 0.65 = 11700 * 1.58 = 18486
no I havent checked EJ couse quite frankly that forum confusses me. is way to hard (for me at least) to find what im after. so many numbers and posts i just get slightly overwhelmed. :/
and thanks :) like i said. math has never really been my thing
So browsed the EJ forums a bit and all i was able to find was either threat issues or what to convert into mastery and what not to convert. didnt find any math to how much it acctually would absorb or any math for it
Post by
pelf
Well, based on a reading of the tooltip...
It says "...increases the amount absorbed by your Savage Defense ability..." rather than "...increases the amount that your Savage Defense ability absorbs..." That's kind of a subtle point, but either you're increasing the amount of what was calculated to be the amount absorbed (first phrasing) or you're increasing the amount that is calculated to be absorbed (second phrasing).
I'm guessing the former. If it's
really
not in the thread, you could ask there. It's a bit daunting to make your first post at EJ, but just make sure you capitalize, punctuate and ask clearly and objectively -- they'll answer.
Post by
517094
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Post by
pelf
Mitigation is mitigation. 5 less damage taken is 5 damage you don't take; that's the same for 500 less damage, and so on.
Post by
Sokken
On my bear tank I am short on expertise or close to the soft cap and I am also below the hit cap by 50 points. Other than dodge I don't see a lot of stats I can swap out for mastery and wonder if bear tanks really need to at this point? Isn't the default 8% enough for now? I read from one of the blue posts that as we level up the gear we find or buy will have mastery on it.
dont have haste on gear? just reforge all haste.
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