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Post by
Acabar
Has anyone done anymore testing when it comes to SP or Black Magic on main-hand now? With DoTs getting buff benefits in real time, I know there was some mention that BM might be the better choice.
Post by
Modibybob
I would assume that BM would be marginally superior on 1h weapons, but probably not staffs.
Post by
asakawa
i think we should expect BM/SP to be something that people need to sim for themselves when a simcraft release comes (or not if we assume that won't happen until after cataclysm's release with these enchants rendered obsolete).
however, some (very) rough theorycraft to find a likely answer for the meantime:
taking destro as an example, a haste proc which gives their immo an extra tick (say, they're sitting at 1300 haste so the proc takes them over 1406) would make their conflags hit harder which makes the proc very strong. if the proc brings the player to 1399 then the proc only makes their casts faster which isn't something very useful to destro right now since they're hard up against the GCD meaning that constant SP is likely to be much stronger.
demo is even more complicated given HoG's refresh mechanic. my gut reaction is that predictable might be best in that case.
BiS stat weights for affliction put SP > haste so aff should probably stick to SP.
the debate probably comes in with the question of is a haste proc for destro that takes the caster to/over 1406 strong enough to warrant its use even on staves...?
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Post by
lankybrit
For Affliction, why don't you have Seed of Corruption in the rotation? You just have Corruption. Is it intended that you can replace Corruption with Seed of Corruption for multiple mob fights, or is it just not recommended at all?
Thanks.
Post by
asakawa
SoC = AoE
it has no place in a single target rotation.
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Post by
lankybrit
Yeah, but my point was, shouldn't the FAQ cover single and AOE, and thus shouldn't it mention SoC in AOE?
You've both said what I already thought, but could be put in the FAQ to make it better IMHO.
Cheers.
Post by
asakawa
Q:
What spells do i use for AOE?
A:
Affliction: Curse of Elements > Soulburn:Seed of corruption ( or just Seed of corruption if you're not talented into Soulburn )
Demonology: Hand of Gul'Dan > Hellfire > Felstorm. Use Metamorphosis and Immolation aura when prudent.
Felstorm is a Felguard ability. So you can use it during Hellfire.
Destruction: Rain of fire.
AoE is being greatly de-emphasized in the game as we move into cataclysm. expect to see its use diminish to some very specific occasions.
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Post by
Maddie09
I noticed points in Jinx in the affliction build but didn't see CoE in the priority or rotation list. Is this reason based on something in Cata or am I missing something =(
Post by
USMCDiablo
Cast it if nobody else is providing the buff. It lasts for 5 minutes so you can pretty much cast and forget about it.
Post by
Acabar
I noticed points in Jinx in the affliction build but didn't see CoE in the priority or rotation list. Is this reason based on something in Cata or am I missing something =(
I think at this point it's assumed that if CoE isn't present in one form or another, you need to be using it.
Post by
Philll
Found an interesting post about Haste caps on the Warlock's Den forum.
Thought it might be worth it to validate and add to the the FAQ if confirmed.
But... if you can't reach 1406 there's plenty of room between 781 and 1406, here's some other interesting spots that makes things little more complex in practice:
795 = If you use Improved Soul Fire properly at the start before Immolate, the 15% haste buff gets you over 50% here which gives the extra tick, note that ISF might be changing in future.
805 = If you have Bloodlust/Heroism (and 5% buff), you need this much gear haste to get to 70% which gives yet another Immo tick, so I'd recommend this to be minimum haste for all specs because it's so close to 781 and 795. (also I read BL and ISF won't stack)
984 = You need this for extra tick if your raid doesn't have +5% haste buff
999 = Without 5% buff you need this to make Improved Soul Fire to get you to 50% haste
1010 = Still without 5% buff but Bloodlust here gets you to 70%
1088 = With 5% buff, improved soul fire(15%) and black magic(250) this will get you to 70%, which is very likely to happen to your 1st or 2nd immolate.
1146 = 5% + 20%(power infusion or berserker) gets you to 70%
1156 = If you use Black Magic enchant, here it raises haste to 1406 part of time
1166 = Hyperspeed accelerators(engineering), same effect as above
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So get minimum of 805 haste if you have 5% haste buff always(Moonkin, Shadow Priest, or Wrath of Air Totem), if you are unsure about buffs and do a lot of randoms, 1010 haste can be a good goal too. If you have black magic and engineering enchants, then 1166 looks like a good spot to aim for if you don't need to sacrifice too much good stats for it, but if you can get to 1406 get that and use SP enchants instead.
Link to the whole post:
http://wowmb.net/forums/f8/40543-haste_vs_mastery/p2/
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Post by
asakawa
your pre-raid set has 8 sockets.
i wonder if 7 int/hit gems and 1 hit/haste (or straight hit if needed) might be reasonable?
edit:
ah, i see. you're talking about level 80 gear sets?
regarding 85:
The current design has been reconsidered, so we're planning to revert gems that now require more blue than red gems back to their original requirements. Such a change can't be accomplished via a hotfix though, so we'll have to wait to revert these in a future patch.
source
at 80. i think i'll be using a 21int one tbh. no way i'm regemming my full set even if CSD is still a big enough DPS gain over alternatives when used with enough blues.
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