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VT dispel protection weaker than pre 4.0.1
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Pachuca
Aah, to be a teenager again
. That was presumptuous of me
The arena season ended when patch 4.0.1 came out anyway, so why is this even an issue? Who is actually still doing arenas?
The next season doesn't start until well after Cataclysm is released, so everyone will be 85 with new spells, new abilities, full talent trees, a new healing model, new resilience values, new gear sets (with new stats), Mastery gems/enchants, etc., etc.
Besides, I like the new
VT dispel mechanic
.
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Badent
I'm throwing my 2 cents here. I agree that the dispel on VT is weak. I don't have problems taking down healers in 4.0.1, but I do need to time all my cds together. Which unfortunately, gets me cursed at in Durotar because I'm playing my class. Anyway...
I think the big thing we need to compare this to is the debuff from
Unstable Affliction
. We get so many people QQ about how OP Shadow Priests are and my IQ degenerates when I hear someone say we faceroll by DoTing and running when it simply is not the case. Especially when our Dots do less damage than Affliction Warlocks. SPs are strong atm of course, but I do think VT dispel needs a rework and I'm sure it will be as Cata arrives.
A healer has to decide which is more safer: leaving VT run or dispeling it and suffering the debuff. You don't see healers dispeling Unstable Affliction simply because it gimps you so bad and with all the other damage the Warlock is dishing out as well its just not worth it. A silence + burst damage.
A 3 second fear or the damage from VT. Without VT up on our target, I'm sorry but we just don't do enough pressure on a healer with a brain. Especially if he's dispeling your DP as well. And no you can't 2 shot someone with MD + SW:D.
Disc Priests & Druids will always be on top of managing their HoTs & Shields in response to our offensive dispels. When they dispel our VT and
do not suffer any extra damage
, their current healing spells they got rolling are more than enough to keep them alive during the 3 second fear. And we need to bear in mind Shamans Tremor Totem (with Stoneclaw up..) here which can remove it afiak.
Simply put healer can freely dispel VT knowing that they can survive through 3 second fear due to 2 things:
- They suffer no extra damage from the initial dispel
- SPs damage is shot down in flames without VT so they know they are safe during the 3 second fear
You can time a Silence after a MB+SW:D combo + MF but without your VT &/or DP running, its not enough damage to kill the healer during the silence.
I'm not complaining about our ability to kill healers. I just think Sin and Punishment needs a rework. If its noticeable now in this unbalance damage in patch 4.0.1, it sure as hell is going to be more noticeable at 85 once things start to normalise out.
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Badent
You shouldn't be having mana issues with Dispersion & Shadowfiend. Especially when you pop Shadowfiend during a burst phase.
Yea of course we got to see it's application in arenas @ 85. With healers having more health pools I don't see the 3 second horror effect being a time where we can get a kill off, especially if you are not playing with a double DPs setup in 2v2.
You have to take rated BGs in mind, where I imagine no healer would question dispelling but let's see.
At the moment, I am preferring the old VT as I found the damage to put us in a nice situation for a kill if you timed a CC after the dispel and cast VT + MB + SW:D.
Would be interesting to see how the horror effect can be used to get a switch off in 2v2 assuming you've fully dispelled the other person. But this only looks viable for double DPS comps.
There are some beta arena videos starting to be released so looking forward to seeing an SP.
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Actually, I only reached 2,2k in 2's this season and 2,5k in 3's.
Citation needed.
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