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Arcane and Fire Mana issues in PVE
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Post by
Darkwraith01
Hey guys,
I'm not sure how exhaustively discussed this topic has been on the forums, so I decided to post it.
I have been playing wow for a little over 2 years now. I've played all specs (Frost, Frostfire, Fire-FFB, Fire-FB, Arcane).
I dinged level 85 last week, and right now I'm running a mix of 5-mans (normal) and finishing up quests in Twillight Highlands (Average Gear Level = 320)
Problem:
I run out of mana pretty damn quick when I play as Arcane or Fire. I mean QUICK, as in run out during a boss fight, even after I have used Evocation. I know Blizzard has tweaked mana usage for heals, so it feels more like what it used to be in Vanilla, but I didn't expect this much of change for Mages.
For Arcane, I'm doing the regular rotations (burn phase if I wanna kill quick, or regular Arcane Blast 4x + Missiles). For Fire, I'm also doing standard rotation, starting with Living Bomb + Scorch, then FB until Pyroblast is available, refreshing Living Bomb.
Are there different rotations for Cataclysm? Or this will "go away" once I hit Raid-level gear?
Or, worse yet, do I have to go Frost for PVE (I hate playing Frost...)?
Please, if you are thinking about writing anything retarded or childish, go write some place else...
Thanks!
Post by
DirtyApe
Are you using mage armor or molten armor? Mage armor is must, especially for boss fights. The crit % molten armor gives you isnt worth it if you are OOM and cant cast any spells. Do you use mana gems everytime they're off cooldown? I don't have mana problems and I dps as fire with mage armor on all the time even for trash mobs.
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Post by
Darkwraith01
Are you using mage armor or molten armor? Mage armor is must, especially for boss fights. The crit % molten armor gives you isnt worth it if you are OOM and cant cast any spells. Do you use mana gems everytime they're off cooldown? I don't have mana problems and I dps as fire with mage armor on all the time even for trash mobs.
Perfect example of a VERY helpful post man, thanks.
I always use Mage Armor when in Arcane. I gave some thought about the Mage Armor for Fire,but never actually tried it out. I will try it today!
I use mana gems, potions and evocation, but I still oom a lot. Maybe with Mage Armor that will change, I have to try.
Thanks!
Post by
Sequoia
I would say as arcane (been playing arcane since Dec 04) that if you are about to run oom just change your rotation to abx3 instead of 4 then missiles if missiles havent proc'd dont forget to reset your AB stack with ABarr
Post by
pezz
EJ says to manage your mana as fire by switching to a free-Scorch-as-nuke rotation as often as you need to to be able to have Molten Armor up all the time and to be able to switch to Fireball whenever you get a trinket proc/boss vulnerability phase/any other sort of high-DPS potential scenario.
Also, minor glyph of conjuring does work on Mana gems conjured mid-fight. That can save you a little bit of mana in longer fights.
Post by
ElderDruid
Hey guys,
I'm not sure how exhaustively discussed this topic has been on the forums, so I decided to post it.
I have been playing wow for a little over 2 years now. I've played all specs (Frost, Frostfire, Fire-FFB, Fire-FB, Arcane).
I dinged level 85 last week, and right now I'm running a mix of 5-mans (normal) and finishing up quests in Twillight Highlands (Average Gear Level = 320)
Problem:
I run out of mana pretty damn quick when I play as Arcane or Fire. I mean QUICK, as in run out during a boss fight, even after I have used Evocation. I know Blizzard has tweaked mana usage for heals, so it feels more like what it used to be in Vanilla, but I didn't expect this much of change for Mages.
For Arcane, I'm doing the regular rotations (burn phase if I wanna kill quick, or regular Arcane Blast 4x + Missiles). For Fire, I'm also doing standard rotation, starting with Living Bomb + Scorch, then FB until Pyroblast is available, refreshing Living Bomb.
Are there different rotations for Cataclysm? Or this will "go away" once I hit Raid-level gear?
Or, worse yet, do I have to go Frost for PVE (I hate playing Frost...)?
Please, if you are thinking about writing anything retarded or childish, go write some place else...
Thanks!
I always keep Mage Armor on and mix in some AM's and AB's.
This is pretty much the way Bliz intentionally designed it. They want to you to have to think about mana conservation now.
I don't think there is any reason to switch away from Arcane.
Post by
Darkwraith01
I always keep Mage Armor on and mix in some AM's and AB's.
This is pretty much the way Bliz intentionally designed it. They want to you to have to think about mana conservation now.
I don't think there is any reason to switch away from Arcane.
Can you link your toon please? I wanna check gear/talents please.
Thank you.
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Post by
greywolfsage
I don't think there is any reason to switch away from Arcane.
Well, for me, I played Arcane from somewhere in Wrath-Naxx content, and if I never see or use Arcane Blast again it'll be too soon.
I'm enjoying frost again.. and having the capacity to live through the kill mechanics of the few heroics I get into without them falling apart. The General in Tol'vir seemed to enjoy putting me into the wall...
Love watching Flash spammers... you just know that's gonna end well.
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