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Post by
willapp657
Hello,
I am looking for some helpful feedback for my dps because ive tried all that EJ has given my gear, rotation, glyph wise and yet nothing is seeming to help me:
Rotation: Scorch -> LB -> Fireball till LB goes off -> refresh LB - > Pyroblast! when hot streak procs.
I also pop a mana gem when at 65% mana then pop evocation at 35% then when i go down to 35% again i pop another mana gem, then pop my last one when i can.
When i get to 35% i do: 2 scorchs then 1 fireball -> LB -> 2 scorchs + 1 fireball till LB explodes -> refresh LB -> Rinse repeat
Link to Character page :
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/y%C3%ADmo/simple
Any Tips, tricks, rotation help etc is muchly apprecitated.
Post by
Tiwuno
Why are you using glyph of frostfire when you mentioned in your rotation you are using fireball as your primary nuke? Also, you
need
improved hotstreak. It is an essential part of any fire mage spec. You do not need the improved fire blast or impact talents since you are not and should not be using those as part of your rotation.
Also, since 4.0.6 scorch has lost much of its usefulness, unless you are moving a
ton
or are very low on mana you can just nuke the heck outta mobs.
Edit: A lot of the information I posted here, as well as much, much more can be found on
Elitist Jerk's Fire Mage compendium
. :)
Post by
nickseng
Try not to use Scorch at Execute range, since Fireball does more damage.
And pop your first Mana gem when you've used around 12k mana, and not at 65% mana.
Post by
greywolfsage
You do not need the improved fire blast or impact talents since you are not and should not be using those as part of your rotation.
One could argue that Imp. Fire Blast (for the range) and Impact is essential to any fire mage's spec for DoT cleaving to Boss adds, which is basically its sole purpose, for a burst in dps. I thought everyone did that. I don't know about you, but seeing that much yellow just bouncing around makes me a happy glass cannon.
Try not to use Scorch at Execute range, since Fireball does more damage.
I think he's saying he's at 35% mana, not target is at 35% health.
Oh, and you never mention using Combustion, OP.
Post by
nickseng
My bad :)
Post by
storyr
You do not need the improved fire blast or impact talents since you are not and should not be using those as part of your rotation.
One could argue that Imp. Fire Blast (for the range) and Impact is essential to any fire mage's spec for DoT cleaving to Boss adds, which is basically its sole purpose, for a burst in dps. I thought everyone did that. I don't know about you, but seeing that much yellow just bouncing around makes me a happy glass cannon.
Try not to use Scorch at Execute range, since Fireball does more damage.
I think he's saying he's at 35% mana, not target is at 35% health.
Oh, and you never mention using Combustion, OP.
Impact hell yes, Imp. Fireblast..hell no.
Post by
vincistis
I start with pyroblast to give tank time to hold agro, and to get my DoT out soon. It gives critical mass so no problemo!
And, I have enough mana that I just repeatedly spam fireball with NO scorches. It actually works, as I put up my mage armor in between pulls. I run OOM before and after each boss fight, almost never in the trash pulls. :D
Post by
greywolfsage
Hey, Storyr, can you tell me what the names of the enchants you use are?
My friend keeps buggin me to raid with him and i keep putting him off since my char isn't quite tweaked out to be, frankly, any use yet. Cuz I'm slow and lazy and semibroke from buying arbitrary things like my alts riding, and leveling mineral professions without a miner >.<
Post by
storyr
Really depends, if you need hit, use hit for bracers.
But if you have access to maelstrom crystals then I'd say go for +65 crit on bracers (unless 50 int has shown up on your server...it hasn't on mine), 50 haste on hands (or 65 mastery if you are close enough to another point, despite it's poor stat weight), int to back. Then rep enchants for helm (hyjal) and shoulders (therazane).
Power torrent for weapon, but if you can't afford it just go hurricane until you can.
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Post by
nickseng
Not much of a surprise since haste over soft cap is pretty much useless.
Not true. Haste is now much more valuable, even after the the "soft cap", due to crit being devalued because of ignite munching.
Oh, I'm personally using the wotlk sp enchant, cause sp is still more valuable than haste.
Post by
storyr
Not much of a surprise since haste over soft cap is pretty much useless.
Yeah all SimC and rawr stat weights pretty much say otherwise.
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Post by
GrooveMaster
where is your combustion? combustion is essential in fire mage dpsing process; even with a 2 min cd, it is huge damage boost when used correclty.
and if your not sure what "used correctly" stands for, then get combustion helper addon :)not that it doesn't help--I use combustionHelper, for instance--but you don't even need an addon really: assuming fireball is your primary nuke and frostfire is unglyphed, that leaves three primary DoT's you need to look for --> Pyroblast DoT, Ignite DoT, and Living Bomb DoT. Living Bomb you can control -- as for the other two, wait for a big crit that procs hot streak, cast Pyroblast!, if LB is off stick another one on, and at that point all three WILL be up (assuming ignite wasn't munched >_>) and as such it will be the optimal time to throw down a combustion.
Easy as pie, right?
Post by
Nathanyal
where is your combustion? combustion is essential in fire mage dpsing process; even with a 2 min cd, it is huge damage boost when used correclty.
and if your not sure what "used correctly" stands for, then get combustion helper addon :)not that it doesn't help--I use combustionHelper, for instance--but you don't even need an addon really: assuming fireball is your primary nuke and frostfire is unglyphed, that leaves three primary DoT's you need to look for --> Pyroblast DoT, Ignite DoT, and Living Bomb DoT. Living Bomb you can control -- as for the other two, wait for a big crit that procs hot streak, cast Pyroblast!, if LB is off stick another one on, and at that point all three WILL be up (assuming ignite wasn't munched >_>) and as such it will be the optimal time to throw down a combustion.
Easy as pie, right?
CombustionHelper also adds up the total damage so you know the best time to use Combustion. Its not until a few ticks after I cast Pyroblast! that my damage really goes up.
You can't decide that in a matter of seconds without the addon.
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Post by
Meggie
Don't expect miracles from borderline heroic geared Combustion. Your hot streaks will be rare. Situational awareness alone gets you to 9k dps. And 5% of that is Combustion. You and your group will be fine without.
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