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Post by
bwirum
This is my current tank build:
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#0ZfMGfoubzMckMcu:q0rz0wMz0
Now, I would like to respec my other one into more of an off tank spec, especially for fights where we don't need two tanks all the time, and was thinking about this for a bear/cat spec:
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#0ZrbGcRubdMfkMcz
Thoughts? And which glyphs would you consider?
And on the same note, considering I'm running heroics for gearing up now and thusly don't know any of the raid encounters in Cata first hand, are there any boss fights in this exp where this is useful?
Post by
LookOut
Endless Carnage is a BIG miss. Take 2 points out of Primal Madness (sucky talent), and put them in Endless Carnage (must-have talent).
That said, your glyphs affect your dps far more than talents (if you made the right choices in your tank spec anyways). So if you got the spare gold, just buy loads of dusts of disappearance and change your glyphs around depending on the fight. That frees up your offspec for PvP or healing or whatever.
I would consider the same if it weren't for the fact that I'm poor. And that I don't have 2/2 Endless Carnage in my tank spec (but I do in my kitty spec).
Post by
pelf
Yeah the glyph swapping is pro and a lot less prohibitive now. Well, I still think 10 gold for a damn dust of ripoff is a bit high...
Anyhow, I swap Shred for Mangle on Al'akir! I'm like, a real DPS now.
Post by
LookOut
dust of ripoff
lol xD
I swap Lacerate for Rip on bosses where we hit the enrage. Ascendant Council (pre-nerf) especially. I used to do that for Cho'gall as well, but Lacerate provides some form of survivability which is really required in that fight.
Post by
bwirum
Yeah, I'm stinkin' rich - if we're talking Exp Zero type gold. Now, not so much. I guess I have some 17-20k gold spread across my chars. That aside, I don't use EC in my main spec either, and I don't want to have it in my main spec. To me it's useless for tanking. Besides, I don't pvp except the odd BG, and healing is for the other guys.
I'm primarily a tank, but I'm looking for a spec to use in the few instances where being an offtank with good damage potential would be nice. Think Putricide. So reglyphing is not really an option.
This then:
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#0ZrbGcRubzrfkMcz
?
Post by
LookOut
This then:
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#0ZrbGcRubzrfkMcz
?
Pretty much, if the other tank(s) can provide the Infected Wounds debuff to the mobs you're tanking (thinking demoralizing roar/shout).
No idea what I'd advise you glyphwise. Probably Shred/Mangle/Rip or something for primes, Maul/Frenzied Regen/Rebirth for majors, Challenging Roar/Dash/Unburdened Rebirth for minors.
Post by
bwirum
Gonna try this on for size:
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#0ZrbGcRubzrfkMcz:z0qz0iMmz
Tried to find glyphs that would do something for both builds, + more feral charges means more good critting ravages in there, and the tradeoff for rip isn't as big since it may actually yield some kind of use also for bearform.
We'll see how it fares =)
Post by
LookOut
Passing on a 15% increase on Rip? Are you kidding me? You do know you'll gain more dps from Rip than Berserk, right? And the Berserk glyph hardly has any use for an offtank, you should be focusing on survivability in bear form and dps in kitty form.
And Rebirth is a MANDATORY glyph for ANY druid,
use it!
Post by
bwirum
Well, when you say it like that...
Post by
pelf
Yeah, never show up to a raid without the Rebirth glyph. And I'm not talking about the one that means you don't have to have seeds in your pocket.
Also, having gold doesn't mean you can't still be frugal.
Post by
bwirum
Frugal or not frugal isn't the question. The point of it is that I want a build that will let me swap midfight from tank to dps and do an ok job with both. In such cases, swapping glyphs is a little ... meh. Besides, pulling the spec up there ^^ with them glyphs lets me do a nice job for my own private farming runs and dailies and such as well, so. Gonna put in the rip and rebirth.
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