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A rant about my Birther, YEC, Zionist parents.
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Post by
Cambo
You can always move to New Zealand. We are indifferent.
I don't even think she really cares about a "personal relationship with God" or anything like that, she's just attracted to the inclusiveness that "religion" has.
Bazinga. This is what people need to know about religion. The majority of religious people have an imagined relationship with God, and are only in church for the inclusiveness.
+1 Skreeran.
Post by
variable303
Evolution is proven fact
How so?
Well, even many Christians don't deny the fact that microevolution occurs (e.g. the evolution of the peppered moth). The controversial portion stems from macroevolution. I'm not a bio major or an expert in this field, so I have no clue whether any proof exists on that end...
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324987
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Post by
Patty
If they were wrong about DNA, we wouldn't have a gene therapy for people with sickle cell disease.
I'm fairly sure they don't want to cure that, as it prevents malaria. So does medication. >.>
Sickle cells are stiff and sticky. They tend to block blood flow in the blood vessels of the limbs and organs. Blocked blood flow can cause pain, serious infections, and organ damage. Sounds wonderful.
Post by
Monday
So does medication. >.>
And I'm sure people in Africa have the money to pay for medication.
E: People who are heterozygous for sickle cell disease don't get any of those problems, but they do get protection from malaria.
Post by
Patty
Only partially. Heterozygotes are codominant, and of course, the fact that some heterozygotes don't suffer as badly still doesn't detract from those who
are
homozygous recessive.
Post by
Monday
Only partially. Heterozygotes are codominant, and of course, the fact that some heterozygotes don't suffer as badly still doesn't detract from those who
are
homozygous recessive.
The homozygous recessive obviously would need a cure, but those who are heterozygous probably wouldn't need treatment, and it would stop malaria.
/shrug
Post by
Patty
Only partially. Heterozygotes are codominant, and of course, the fact that some heterozygotes don't suffer as badly still doesn't detract from those who
are
homozygous recessive.
The homozygous recessive obviously would need a cure, but those who are heterozygous probably wouldn't need treatment, and it would stop malaria.
/shrug
It
wouldn't
stop malaria, it
might
stop malaria. As I said, they're co-dominant, and some heterozygous people are still capable of suffering from malaria, as some of their red blood cells are still susceptible.
Post by
Monday
Only partially. Heterozygotes are codominant, and of course, the fact that some heterozygotes don't suffer as badly still doesn't detract from those who
are
homozygous recessive.
The homozygous recessive obviously would need a cure, but those who are heterozygous probably wouldn't need treatment, and it would stop malaria.
/shrug
It
wouldn't
stop malaria, it
might
stop malaria. As I said, they're co-dominant, and some heterozygous people are still capable of suffering from malaria, as some of their red blood cells are still susceptible.
It has a very high chance of stopping malaria.
Post by
Patty
It has a very high
chance
of stopping malaria.
My point exactly. :P
Post by
Monday
It has a very high
chance
of stopping malaria.
My point exactly. :P
So? I'd take the very minor discomfort of heterozygous sickle cell if it gave an 80%+ chance to resist malaria (assuming I lived somewhere were malaria is a problem and was African).
Post by
Orranis
Bleh. I can't claim to have similar parents, but I definitely know what you're going through. Zionist grandparents...
Edit: They live in South Africa and after a car-ride with my grandpa I discovered he honestly believed that Fox News was the most unbiased American media station.
Post by
Patty
So? I'd take the very minor discomfort of heterozygous sickle cell if it gave an 80%+ chance to resist malaria (assuming I lived somewhere were malaria is a problem and was African).
To be fair, in many parts of the world that malaria is still a problem in, such as undeveloped countries, the education is usually still quite poor, along with attendance. I don't think most of the population would be aware of genetically inherited diseases.
Post by
Tartonga
Thinking is hard, some people don't like to do it and let others do it for them. Not all of us are scientists or mathematicians, but we can take in information, digest it, and decide for ourselves.
This doesn't help the OP, but it's on topic and pretty lollerskates.
Ugghh, I just watched that. It's sad to hear and see how people choose not to believe in science for the only reason being that they believe in religion, really sad.
On my own opinion, I see religion and the media as a way to control people. Since we are young, we are "programmed" unconsciously by our parents, the teachers (and in that way, even the goverment) and they tell us that there are only certain ways to happiness, mostly controlled by them. The truth is there are no ways; we are in the middle of a desert and we have to explore every way until we find happiness for ourselves. But here is where religion appears, it manipulates us with our happiness. "We can only be happy in Heaven, because there is where the true happiness is. Life is just a miserable walkthrough to see if we go there or not"."Earth is just a valley of tears"."By the sweat of your face you will eat bread". So religion is telling us that the Earth, or in other words our life, is just full of lament, sadness and unhappiness; so you won't be happy until you die, and so the only way to be finally happy is to be religious until the end. Religion makes you need it and this is where they find a way to control masses. People paying the tithe (like seriously, paying 10% of your salary every month for an unknown purpose? No thanks, I'll pass), controlling thoughts, making you choose what and what not to believe, closing your doors to the rest and in some cases generating a feeling of anger towards other kind of religions (and atheists), claiming they are false and there are only 1 truly religion and 1 truly "God". RELIGION DOES NOT EVEN SUPPORT CONDOMS, FFS!
In my own experience, my mom is christian but my father is not. So I had to study religion since I was kid and then they let me choose what to do with my life. They day I finished studying religion was the day I stopped going to church, I never believed anything of it.
Their primary source of news is, of course, Faux News, but their thirst for propaganda is not simply satisfied by that. Just the other day I got into an argument with them because their watching of Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed had filled their heads with all sorts of new ideas to attack science and reason with.
I didn't know what was that movie about so I was looking at the overview in wikipedia.
The intelligent design proponents shown include Richard Weikart, who claims that Darwinism influenced the Nazis. The film also associates Hitler's ambitions of a master race and the holocaust to Darwinian ideas of survival of the fittest through stock footage film clips of filmed images of Nazi concentration camp laboratories as well as statements of the director of the Hadamar Memorial, where 15,000 people with disabilities were killed during WWII. The film directly addresses intelligent design only superficially, focusing on how it is treated in academia rather than on issues involving the concept itself. It makes almost no attempt to define intelligent design or show any scientific evidence in favor of intelligent design. Instead, the film deals with the subject almost entirely from a political, rather than scientific, viewpoint.
Sounds like a republican brainwash instead of a movie, if you ask me. Also why not show a movie about countries killing for oil, money and power, but with the excuse that the victim country *might* control nuclear weapons and is considered a thread for the
humanity
?
Post by
Monday
Tartonga, please specify which religion you are talking about.
Post by
Patty
I think he is talking about religion in general.
Post by
Monday
I think he is talking about religion in general.
If he is, then he is so uninformed it's sad.
Post by
Patty
Not necessarily. He may be arguing something similar to Marx, that 'religion is the opiate of the people'. Which is a valid argument.
Post by
Monday
I'm not saying it isn't. I'm referring to specific things like RELIGION DOES NOT EVEN SUPPORT CONDOMS, FFS!
claiming they are false and there are only 1 truly religion and 1 truly "God".
etc.
Post by
Adamsm
Some religions/religious types are against contraception though.
And any fanatic of any religion, can spout that second thing.
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