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Post by
pelf
Comment post made here:
http://www.wowhead.com/itemset=-14#comments:id=1420269
Hello Rogues!
I'm leveling my rogue half through PvP and just reached 70. As I was getting closer, I wanted to plan my enchants and gemming for the Brutal gear. I ended up with the following set up and I wanted to run it by you guys. I'm intentionally going to leave talents and glyphs empty so we don't digress; however, I will say that I have pretty exclusively been using Subtlety in PvP.
What I'd like to do is make an eventual post on the Item Set page for our Brutal set to help future Rogues setting this up.
The only real points of contention that I see here are what to do with gemming (pure Agi, Agi/Resil, pure Resil), what to do with weapon enchants (Berserking or Agility), and what to do for the second trinket slot. Past that, I would like to make sure I didn't miss a better piece of gear or enchant.
Here it is...
http://www.wowhead.com/profile=24937459
...have at it! Thank you, if you do
:)
.
(The enterprising among you will see the link to the character of origin for this profile and can nitpick my spec from there, I suppose; but, don't derail too much, please.)
Post by
120504
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Post by
Tartonga
I think you should go with
Brutal Gladiator's Shiv
for your Off-hand with
Titanium Weapon Chain
on it. As for the blue ring, you could try to get
Hard Khorium Band
but that would seem expensive. Also, I think
Powerful Stats
would be a better choice for your chest.
Eh, yeah, my bad, nevermind.
Post by
pelf
Agility doesn't give armor. It still gives dodge.
Good stuff. I actually had just talked to someone about Mongoose and agreed it would probably be better. I also thought throughput might be better than DR given the Subtlety style of play.
The other dagger because of the speed? Also, why do you think chain would be better than Mongoose?
I'll make those modifications. Anything else?
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120504
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Post by
atomicwolf22
The fast off-hand helps with poisons.
As for gemming I would stack nothing but Agil gems.
I just finished leveling threw these levels around a month ago on my Rogue. And as for the Weapon Chain I don't think I would bother with it. Most classes that can Disarm never use it. From what I saw. Keep it on anther weapon just in case (some random green or blue works fine) And Mongoose is very nice for the Agil but also for the haste effect also.
Also there is no spec or gylphs for your Sub. Spec but there is stuff there for combat.
Post by
pelf
Yeah, I'm gonna do double Mongoose, I think. I'll switch to the Agility gems too.
I intentionally left the spec/glyphs empty. I just wanted to talk about the gear.
Alright. I updated the profile. I'll leave this up a bit into this week and then make my post. Thanks for the advice!
Post by
Coldkil
Pelf on rogue forums? O.o
Post by
pelf
Pelf on rogue forums? O.o
I enjoy my little rogue-dog quite a lot
:)
.
I'm going to draft the comment here so I don't have
Edited 45 times by pelf
on the comment for the item set.
As my PvP-focused Rogue reached level 70 and it came time to buy the Brutal Gladiator set and off-set pieces, I decided to formalize the list and create a profile and a nice table for other people to use as a reference in the future. I presented the list to the Rogue forums, gathered feedback and refined the list in
this
thread.
The profile can be found here:
Brutal Gladiator
The rest of this comment contains the table of gear, gems and enchants. The criteria for selection was simply that some Subtlety spec would be the primary use of this gear and that it would be used in battlegrounds for leveling-PvP purposes. If a reader of this comment disagrees with any of this, I would suggest that they post in the forum thread. If the Rogues agree with the modification, I will change the comment on this page.
SLOT
COST
ITEM
GEM(S)
ENCHANT
HEAD
175
Brutal Gladiator's Leather Helm
Relentless Earthsiege Diamond
Delicate Cardinal Ruby
Heavy Borean Armor Kit
NECK
90
Guardian's Pendant of Triumph
Delicate Cardinal Ruby
SHOULDER
140
Brutal Gladiator's Leather Spaulders
Delicate Cardinal Ruby
×2
Greater Inscription of the Gladiator
BACK
90
The Gladiator's Resolution
Major Agility
CHEST
175
Brutal Gladiator's Leather Tunic
Delicate Cardinal Ruby
×3
Powerful Stats
WRIST
90
Guardian's Dragonhide Bracers
Delicate Cardinal Ruby
Greater Assault
HANDS
140
Brutal Gladiator's Leather Gloves
Major Agility
WAIST
140
Guardian's Leather Belt
Delicate Cardinal Ruby
Eternal Belt Buckle
LEGS
175
Brutal Gladiator's Leather Legguards
Jormungar Leg Armor
FEET
140
Guardian's Leather Boots
Tuskarr's Vitality
FINGER
75
Guardian's Band of Triumph
FINGER
--
Executioner's Band
TRINKET
100
Medallion of the Alliance
TRINKET
--
Swift Hand of Justice
MAIN HAND
245
Brutal Gladiator's Shanker
Mongoose
OFF HAND
105
Brutal Gladiator's Shiv
Mongoose
THROWN
95
Brutal Gladiator's War Edge
TABARD
100
Knight's Colors
2075
HONOR
Added costs. Need to verify them before I update the comment.
Post by
pelf
Comment post made here:
http://www.wowhead.com/itemset=-14#comments:id=1420269
Post by
Isamael
Dont you want 4p t6 aswell as 4p brutal? alteast i think thats what ppl used to play with back in the day .. trinket something else then heirloom?
Post by
120504
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Post by
pelf
Dont you want 4p t6 aswell as 4p brutal? alteast i think thats what ppl used to play with back in the day .. trinket something else then heirloom?
I'm not sure I want to go to the trouble to get Tier 6, personally
:)
. I'd have to convince a few people that it's worth dragging me through that content for gear I'll stop using in a few levels.
As for the trinket, I'm all ears. The other PvP one heals me for 800. My health is at something like 15k with normal buffs. That didn't seem useful.
Don't forget you need a yellow gem to activate your
Relentless Earthsiege Diamond
. I would suggest a
Nightmare Tear
for the yellow socket on your chest to activate the bonus.
Wowhead is wrong on that. Screenshot:
http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/9250/relentless.jpg
Post by
120504
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Post by
pelf
Yeah, I have a thread in feedback with a report on it. Koper took a look at it but can't figure out why the data seems to indicate that it requires one while the game clearly doesn't.
No idea.
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834835
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Post by
pelf
Ha! That's an interesting item. I admit I wasn't really up at all on the earlier darkmoon cards.
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812974
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335609
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Post by
pelf
A comment was posted asserting that the AP/Crit leg armor is better than the Stam/Agility leg armor.
http://www.wowhead.com/itemset=-14#comments:id=1454929
What do you think?
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