Vicious Gladiator's gear going from 365 to 371?

Post by Metodi

I saw that there is a new items in wowhead for Vicious Gladiator's gear. For example the hunter's armor now is this - ilevel is 365, but there is another Vicious Gladiator's Chain Armor with ilevel 371 - added in patch 4.2.
So my question is, does the conquest gear we already own from Season 9 going to be converted to ilevel 371, or only the new gear from Season 10 bought with honor will be 371? Anyone on the ptr can answer this?

EDIT: It is now confirmed. All conquest gear from season 9 will remain ilevel 365. All honor gear from season 10 will be ilevel 371.

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Post by apocalypsa

Neither, afaik the 371 items are already ingame, they're the pvp set you can buy once you have over 2200 rating.
Edit: But despite having a different color they're also ilvl 365 atm, I assume those are the items that will be converted and that they won't be obtainable with honor (the 365 set will).
It's probable that the 371 set will become the new base set, bought for conquest points without rating and the new total points thing requirement and the new ruthless set will require rating.

The new ruthless set wont require rating and will cost conquest points.

This ilvl change is simply to keep the old rating set useful in the current season - they used to be only an indication of high arena rating, but because of the new season thats no longer the case.

Post by Metodi

It's probable that the 371 set will become the new base set, bought for conquest points without rating and the new total points thing requirement and the new ruthless set will require rating.

I doubt that, because the pvp conquest sets was always in the middle (by ilevel) between normal raid sets and heroic raid sets. As the new normal raid sets are 378 and the new heroic raid sets are 391, I think Ruthless which is 384 will cost conquest and won't require rating.

This ilvl change is simply to keep the old rating set useful in the current season - they used to be only an indication of high arena rating, but because of the new season thats no longer the case.

Probably this would happen.

P.S. sorry apocalypsa :) , I am a little new to forum quoting :)

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If you quote me atleast put my name in the quote box :)

Post by Metodi

A blue just confirmed that in the new season the gear with honor will be ilevel 371.

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Post by Metodi

They didn't want ppl with Firelands PvE gear outdoing Vicious S9(The then honor set), which would have been the case since Firelands stuff is really high IL.(378) The best solution was to raise Vicious IL so it wouldn't be outdone. They did this by adding an S10 version that is 371.

This change is to keep PvE raiders from performing better in PvP than us PvPers, which should NEVER be the case. The buff gives us more DPS than S9 and more Res to counter the higher DPS from the new PvE stuff. It keeps our PvP set on top of the PvE stuff in PvP.(Which is how it should stay.)

If not for this change, you'd have people rolling around in Fireland 378 PvE stomping people in PvP gear.(PvE gear should never be better at PvP than PvP gear)
In other words:
365 Vicious < 378 Firelands. (Not good)
371 Vicious > 378 Firelands. (Problem now solved)
I love to face pve geared people in the arena/bg. Regardless of their ilvl.
If you count dps with resi...well i'd like to meet you too.

Exactly. I was full 365 Vicious geared when 4.2 hit and I don't have problems with ppl with pve gear from firelands. When the arena gear(384) starts pouring in the PvE players will suffer even more. Besides, they can't get decked out in 378 pve gear in a week or two (or three)...

Vicious Gladiator's gear going from 365 to 371?

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