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521523
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Post by
Adamsm
They are idiots; can't wait till they all are arrested and forced to work for whatever government captures them. Over all....you know your life is sad when you find stupid immature *!@# like this amusing.
Post by
Treskol
It'd be interesting too see, Blizzard are actually good for security.
P.S. Have you got a link for the Twitter page? I can't use Twitter at all, it confuses me.
Post by
Interest
So THAT'S what that thing on Anonnews was about...
Post by
chaosultimamage
I was pretty cool with it when they declared war on Sony, and I'm still totally cool with the statements from Anonymous to NATO and the Spanish Police, but Lulzsec's little bout of hacking everything they think of is getting pretty old.
They don't even have reasons for this stuff anymore.
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521523
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Post by
Lombax
What I can notice they are just a bunch of morons that haven't reached the maturity level of a ten year old. Nothing more nothing less.
Post by
Interest
Please elaborate what is "Annonnews". (Am guessing is the umbrella term for all recent cyber attacks?)
If your referring to what this article is saying
http://venturebeat.com/2011/06/15/lulzsec-anonymous-civil-war/
in the 4chan /v/ board? Then please give me a link to check it out.
Edit for Chaos: Their "reason" is for the Lulz, as they have stated in their twitter and website. I do agree that it is childish behavior on their part and it should stop.
Anonnews is essentially a "site" that has posts on attacks, past, present, and future, that Anonymous may be planning, or has planned.
Post by
chaosultimamage
Edit for Chaos: Their "reason" is for the Lulz, as they have stated in their twitter and website. I do agree that it is childish behavior on their part and it should stop.
Oh, I get the whole 'for t3h lulz' thing, but that isn't a reason, just an excuse. What I mean is this -
They hacked Sony for a reason. Sony sued a man for cracking the PS3 source code and posting it online. This has happened to many other companies and generally, it ends with a change to the support agreement to state that it will void your warranty and possibly the company bringing in the perpetrator to work for them / advise. The people modding / hacking phones and consoles are the pioneers of the next generation. Almost every aspect of the Xbox 360, for example, was present in the capabilities of a modded original Xbox.
Nintendo, Bethesda, and a few of the other things they've hacked recently have done no such "wrong" to the hacking community.
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255496
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Post by
Squishalot
They hacked Sony for a reason. Sony sued a man for cracking the PS3 source code and posting it online. This has happened to many other companies and generally, it ends with a change to the support agreement to state that it will void your warranty and possibly the company bringing in the perpetrator to work for them / advise. The people modding / hacking phones and consoles are the pioneers of the next generation. Almost every aspect of the Xbox 360, for example, was present in the capabilities of a modded original Xbox.
That doesn't make what they've done 'right'.
Sony has every right to sue someone for cracking the PS3 source code. Imagine if someone opened up a Prius hybrid engine and posted all the electricals and mechanics online. The guy essentially hacked and released Sony intellectual property to the world. Of course he should've been sued.
LulzSec (and Anonymous as a whole) represents the new face of 'terrorism' in the world - that of cyberterrorism. As soon as more governments and companies start making serious attempts to address it, chances are that we'll find ourselves more restricted (as we do with our physical movements), but eventually resulting in the situation that the amount of cyberterrorism dies down in response to the heightened security (and jail terms associated with being caught).
Part of the problem is the leniency associated with cyber attacks, because you get a bunch of bored kids participating, and it's not seen as politically correct to lock up teenagers for being young and dumb. That's probably going to change in the next 5 years. I'd prepare for a lot of anguish and tears to come.
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521523
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Post by
Adamsm
They are still idiots.
Post by
xaratherus
LulzSec (and Anonymous as a whole) represents the new face of 'terrorism' in the world - that of cyberterrorism.
I'm not saying that I disagree with you, Squish, but at the same time (as Devil's Advocate) yesterday's terrorists are often tomorrow's 'freedom fighters'. From an American standpoint, the 'founding fathers' of the United States were terrorists in the eyes of the British empire.
I don't know that I'd even go so far as to label LulzSec a "cyberterrorist" group, even though I agree with you that the actions they took were clearly illegal. They weren't attempting to incite terror to control a group of people.
Attempting to label these hackers as "terrorists" seems to me to be fearmongering.
That's somewhat of a digression from the original topic. :P But that
never
happens on these boards.
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138638
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Post by
Interest
right or not, at least with the PS3 source code they had some semblance of a purpose or reason to DDOS Sony's servers. But shutting down servers and sites randomly for no reason other than "for the lulz" is completely pointless and counterproductive to anything.
I can understand why someone would protest via DDOS attacks, but just doing it for the sake of doing it, seems childish and idiotic. What they seem to want now is attention but
could there be a financial reason behind these attacks?
It's the only logical reason I can see behind the attacks, I mean after an initial investment for all the rigs how much could it cost to set up these attacks?
@Interest A "site" huh? I will check it out later.
heh, it seems Lulzsec brought anonnews down
Oh $%^&ing hell.
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521523
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124027
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Post by
Malediction
Ladies and Gentletauren:
LulzSec has officially brought down
cia.gov
and, yes, even
4chan.org
.
^&*! just got real.
Post by
chaosultimamage
They hacked Sony for a reason. Sony sued a man for cracking the PS3 source code and posting it online. This has happened to many other companies and generally, it ends with a change to the support agreement to state that it will void your warranty and possibly the company bringing in the perpetrator to work for them / advise. The people modding / hacking phones and consoles are the pioneers of the next generation. Almost every aspect of the Xbox 360, for example, was present in the capabilities of a modded original Xbox.
That doesn't make what they've done 'right'.
Sony has every right to sue someone for cracking the PS3 source code. Imagine if someone opened up a Prius hybrid engine and posted all the electricals and mechanics online. The guy essentially hacked and released Sony intellectual property to the world. Of course he should've been sued.
LulzSec (and Anonymous as a whole) represents the new face of 'terrorism' in the world - that of cyberterrorism. As soon as more governments and companies start making serious attempts to address it, chances are that we'll find ourselves more restricted (as we do with our physical movements), but eventually resulting in the situation that the amount of cyberterrorism dies down in response to the heightened security (and jail terms associated with being caught).
Part of the problem is the leniency associated with cyber attacks, because you get a bunch of bored kids participating, and it's not seen as politically correct to lock up teenagers for being young and dumb. That's probably going to change in the next 5 years. I'd prepare for a lot of anguish and tears to come.
I disagree. I find it rather petty that a multi-billion dollar corporation would have the gall to sue an individual. Send the guy a cease and desist letter for him to take it down. There is nothing wrong with cracking software and modding, imo. As I noted, the ideas gained from allowing it to happen will influence the following generation and advance gaming as a whole. Piracy will happen and the more you try to clamp down, the harder people will push back. When is the last time you heard about someone getting arrested for downloading music / movies? It's been awhile. The activity, however, has certainly not gone down.
I agree that 'cyber terrorism' is a bad thing and should be taken seriously. However, a few random teenagers hacking Sony is not 'cyber terrorism'. You wouldn't call robbing a store or just breaking in to a store or vandalizing a store terrorism. They didn't destroy anything. Yet. They didn't kill anyone.
Them DDOSing the CIA website could be considered 'cyber terrorism' because it's a government facility, but even then, there's really no damage and no one gets hurt, the website is just down for a bit. There have always been hackers. There will always be hackers. Illegal activity can still be punished without labeling it as terrorism.
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