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817775
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apocalypsa
Cant tell if trolling...
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817775
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Post by
apocalypsa
Well. You didnt say what spec, 1. There are updated guides for all but unholy, 2. And even if those werent here you could just have googled "4.2 rotation deathknight tanking", 3.
Post by
Aris
Well it's not a rotation anymore, its more of a priority list, and it's... complicated...
The reason for the complications, is you have to use Death Strike more intelligently. The way DS works now is the more damage you've taken in the last 5 seconds, the better it is. It still heals you like always.
So for instance, if you are high on health, and you have avoided/absorbed all damage for the last 5 seconds, then using DS does nothing for you. So even if you have runes available for DS, you shouldn't necessarily use it.
Now if your taking constant damage and/or your health is around 50% or lower, then using DS every time you can makes sense.
You still have to worry about keeping diseases up also.
A typical fight works like this for me:
Single Target: (Boss)
Outbreak > DS > HS > HS > DS > DRW > ERW > IT > PS > HS > HS
At this point i start looking at how much damage I've taken recently to determine if i use RS or DS. Keep using a HS whenever a blood rune becomes available to keep blade barrier up, but save death runes for using DS. If your taking damage or low on health use DS, if not use RS.
The only difference i use between a non boss single target and a boss single target is i save DRW and ERW for bosses.
AOE:
D&D > Outbreak > Pest > BB > DS
Once your shield has worn off (which may be instantaniously depending on how many things your tanking), use RT and another DS. Then start tabbing through all the mobs, HS if a blood rune is available to keep blade barrier up, use DS if your taking damage or low on health, and if neither of those apply, use an RS.
If you are spec'd into Crimson Scourge, then use it whenever it procs.
Post by
Orranis
^ No.
You don't want to Blood Tap as soon as the shield comes down as then you've taken nearly no damage and the Blood Shield will be weaker then a Mage with a fist weapon. You're doubling up on Blood Runes in a way that is not only impossible, but shouldn't be done (You can't have a second Heart Strikex2 after the initial pull, as one Blood Rune's on an 8 second cooldown the other a 16 second cooldown, furthermore it's a bad idea as then Runic Empowerment will proc Blood Runes instead of Frost/Unholy runes and give you less Death Strikes.)
Just look through my guide.
Post by
apocalypsa
All I can say is:
Just read the damn stickies.
Post by
Orranis
It's not a sticky yet, to be fair >_>
Post by
Aris
^ No.
You don't want to Blood Tap as soon as the shield comes down as then you've taken nearly no damage and the Blood Shield will be weaker then a Mage with a fist weapon. You're doubling up on Blood Runes in a way that is not only impossible, but shouldn't be done (You can't have a second Heart Strikex2 after the initial pull, as one Blood Rune's on an 8 second cooldown the other a 16 second cooldown, furthermore it's a bad idea as then Runic Empowerment will proc Blood Runes instead of Frost/Unholy runes and give you less Death Strikes.)
Just look through my guide.
how exactly is the second heartstrike on a 16second cooldown? You get 2 blood runes, and heart strike only uses 1 per use..
You need to use 2x HS and 2x DS in order to have enough runic power to use DRW, which is why i use them up from like that. While the initial DS will have almost no healing or shield value, it's being used more in that specific instance for initial threat, and for the runic power to power DRW.
For AOE. D&D is 1 unholy rune, Pest is 1 blood rune, BB is 1 blood rune, and DS is 1 ice and 1 unholy. Leaving you with only 1 ice rune left. You need to use RT for a death rune if you are to use DS again without waiting for them to come off cooldown. And again, you only do this if your first DS shield has been eaten through by that time and you are taking sufficient damage. Sometimes you will and sometimes you won't have taken enough damage by that point to require it. If you haven't then use RS's until you have.
Post by
Orranis
^ No.
You don't want to Blood Tap as soon as the shield comes down as then you've taken nearly no damage and the Blood Shield will be weaker then a Mage with a fist weapon. You're doubling up on Blood Runes in a way that is not only impossible, but shouldn't be done (You can't have a second Heart Strikex2 after the initial pull, as one Blood Rune's on an 8 second cooldown the other a 16 second cooldown, furthermore it's a bad idea as then Runic Empowerment will proc Blood Runes instead of Frost/Unholy runes and give you less Death Strikes.)
Just look through my guide.
how exactly is the second heartstrike on a 16second cooldown? You get 2 blood runes, and heart strike only uses 1 per use..
You need to use 2x HS and 2x DS in order to have enough runic power to use DRW, which is why i use them up from like that. While the initial DS will have almost no healing or shield value, it's being used more in that specific instance for initial threat, and for the runic power to power DRW.
Because of how runes work. The second Blood Rune does not start it's cooldown until the second one comes off cooldown.
And your rotation goes HS>HS twice, in the initial and afterward.
Post by
Aris
Because of how runes work. The second Blood Rune does not start it's cooldown until the second one comes off cooldown.
And your rotation goes HS>HS twice, in the initial and afterward.
Who said this is my "rotation"? This is my opener. I stated below it what i do after that point. This is only how i open a fight, not how i continue it from then on out.
You get 2x blood runes at the start of a fight, so yes i can use HS twice in a row.
Re-read the post. it is not how i stated to use it "in the initial and afterwards" only the initial.
Post by
Orranis
Ah ^&*! my fault I missed Empower Rune Weapon. I really wouldn't recommend using it on an initial pull though, it's extremely powerful for Death Strikes when you're at low health and on-demand rune power for a ghoul sac.
Post by
Aris
Ah ^&*! my fault I missed Empower Rune Weapon. I really wouldn't recommend using it on an initial pull though, it's extremely powerful for Death Strikes when you're at low health and on-demand rune power for a ghoul sac.
Well i got a couple dps in my raids that like to "test" my snap aggro at the start of boss pulls. So i glyph for DRW, and pop that and ERW so i can hold the initial aggro while my dps goes all out right from the start.
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817775
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
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817775
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
apocalypsa
All I can say is:
Just read the damn stickies.
I did and most if not all are out of date. And I already apologized after i found the post I was looking for but apparently either you didn't read previous posts and missed it and just came in here to sling mud or an appology isn't good enough and therefore nothing ever makes you happy. Either way...
The tanking sticky apperently wasnt a sticky yet. Sorry for that, I assumed it already was.
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