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A doubt about talents
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Post by
LookOut
If I gain in Regrowth (
that I don't use
)
You should be using it tbh. Unless I missed something.
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710088
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Post by
gane
For now, at least, I would drop the 3 points in
and put them in
. The build I am currently using is this,
http://www.wowhead.com/profile=us.nazgrel.bearier#talents
, this is not a raiding build but, it works well for me in 5mans.
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gane
Derp, my bad. listen to Asa, not me, I appear to be retarded. :)
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Post by
curlymon
Why not take neither LS or NB... It is possible and currently
the suggested base EJ spec
.
If you want Nature's Bounty or for some really odd reason Living Seed you take the points out of Perseverance or Blessing of the Grove.
Living Seed is just a terrible talent for us at this time. Not because the talent itself is bad but because it requires a fairly unique change to healing strategy to make it worthwhile. It is only good for a tank healing setup and does not lend well to raid healing as it barely benefits that side of things. The only possible change to this being the 4t12 bonus and how it would interact with LS. Until we get the live versions of the 4 piece in front of us we won't really have a full grasp.
Nature's Bounty Is a different ballgame. It lends itself to raid healing quite well with it's second listed effect. However Blizz pulled the punch by causing it to scale Nourish rather then a spell we would actually choose to use for raid healing. The primary listed effect rarely is found beneficial (heavy dmg + ToL/LB clearcasts or Regrowth + Glyph on Chim).
One is canted toward tank healing and one is canted towards raid healing. Neither is a very good option in the end even if you ARE focused on one or the other aspect, which is why those points reside in Perseverance a great damage prevention talent.
Only thing I do not like about the EJ spec is that lack of Magic removal which seems a bad idea to me. While I understand that an extra talent point taken from that can be put to good use if you have others that already are removing magic... it's just not redundant enough for me :P
I personally use
this spec
. Which is the EJ spec but the point taken out of NS and placed in NC.
I currently have a mini self debate over whether I want NS more then 1 point in BotG. Fairly interchangeable to me to be honest, just dependent on expected use.
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Post by
curlymon
I know it has a healing boost but for myself I find I rarely if at all find a need for an NSHT and 95% of those times it fall in a time where even that heal is effectively wasted. 2% to Rejuv makes more sense to me with my personal style of healing.
If Blizz turned around and took away the healing boost but made the spell free I'd take it in a heartbeat.
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Post by
Temes
2% to Rejuv makes more sense to me with my personal style of healing.
That's what I say. It depends on the way you heal and wich party you have to heal.
Today I wanna try your spec and see if it's on my same way.
About the Glyph of HT to me is unusefull cause I rarely use the NS (for now).
Assuming you never use innervate on others as it is now a clear loss in raid mana, the innervate glyph is now completely useless. And not very useful > completely useless. Personally I find the 2% additive bonus to rejuv ( which means about 1.5% bigger rejuv) quite neglible and situations, where a DPS or a tank is at very low HP and needs a insta heal, I find quite common. Or sometimes the tank is just taking so much damage that you need that instant big heal there to keep him up. Obviously this is only my opinion, since I haven't had any real problems with the static raid damage, its the spikes that people take from personal fails or sometimes also from regular boss mechanics (baleroc hello). Though I also run two resto specs, one with the dispel talent so I don't have to worry about wasting unneeded talents there.
EDIT: also I using a 10/0/31 spec probably isn't optimal atm, you should probably get bigger boost to healing by speccing 8/2/31 and reforging spirit off to mastery/haste/crit until the regen is at a good level.
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curlymon
EDIT: also I using a 10/0/31 spec probably isn't optimal atm, you should probably get bigger boost to healing by speccing 8/2/31 and reforging spirit off to mastery/haste/crit until the regen is at a good level.
The problem with those two points in furor is I don't even need it in my wildest dreams. And yes I'm fully capable of saying that with full understanding of all sides of the argument.
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