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Post by
Doring
You can get your cap from heroics pretty easily, do 2-3 a night and you are done fast. Raiding, well, if you can't get but 1-2 raid bosses, how about an off night where you go back and farm the previous raid. You know, you are beating on maybe Firelands content and go do BoT or some such. Some folks can do it so quickly that they go do ICC for mount runs in less than 2 hours. It's less points but it's points regardless. (At least I think so since I haven't been in there in nearly 3 months and it was back then)
Post by
Lorkin
Well it all depends on what you goal is. VP can get you gear, but so can the FL raids. Soon you'll be downing more and more FL bosses and the VP will be coming in faster and more steadily. I know at a certain point (pre-4.2) I stopped running heroics all together. I didn't need VPs anymore and the only upgrades I could use were from raids.
Right now it's different with all the new shiney VP's available to be purchased, but eventually you'll stop having a use for them as well. Then it's back to "I can only upgrade my gear through FL raids" time and you'll definately want to be in a group that does those raids.
My advice is stick with the raids for now if that's all you have time for. If you happen to be on at a non raid time and want something to do, run some heroics.
Post by
Porcell
We get 2 bosses down so far, working on the third. So I get 420 (3x140, counting new BH boss) valor points a week. So from a personal pov, it would be more rewarding to skip a raid and just do troll heroics.
If you are disregarding raid drops and just want valor points, then yes.
If you are somehow asking for Valor Points for wiping to raid bosses, you are being unreasonable.
Post by
hawke
You know, you are beating on maybe Firelands content and go do BoT or some such. Some folks can do it so quickly that they go do ICC for mount runs in less than 2 hours
Except the old raid are now giving Justice Points and not Valor Points. I still recommend sticking with the raid, like Lorkin said. There's gonna be a point where VP are gonna get in more steadily.... You can't blame people that have more time than you caping their VP tough.
They should have done like Conquest Point. You can do Arena up to 1600 points, but the max is 1950, so you have to do RBG to get "capped". They should have done so that heroic give up to 980 (or any numbers), and to get capped, you need to get 2-3 FL boss, that way, raiders actually have a real advantage compared to the people facerolling heroic for their loots.
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Lorkin
True that, raiders shouldn't get penalized for capping the same as someone running heroics all week. I'm in the "run heroics for points" right now and I see no issues giving raiders more points. Like I said, VPs seem way awsome now 3 weeks into the new stuff, but very soon people won't have a need for them. I've already started seeing people selling the BoE bracers in trade chat.
Post by
Porcell
It would be nice if raiders could get more points than people who only run heroics, which is the way it's been forever. But it's not currently in T12, and it's not big enough of a deal for me to throw a fit over it. Heck, the first week we went 6/7 in 10 mans, second week we went 5/7 in 25 mans and the remaining 2 bosses in 10 mans, and at the end of the week I was at a 377 item level on my main. So I'm not "mad" that someone running only heroics will have enough valor for 1, maybe 2 pieces of 378 gear from the vendor. I have the same valor access, but I have way more access to raid drops too.
Post by
hawke
It's true it doesn't matter much for guild that "faceroll" new raid, but for raiding guild struggling with it like OP guild seems to, it's still a bit unfair IMO. I don't mind THAT much, but honestly, it's kind of frustrating to see people doing as much VP as you just doing small heroics without any efforts, and you're killing yourself to wipe for hours to down 2 boss, and if you don't get any loots, you're at the same point as them.
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hawke
I would prefer running 3 trolls, still. I ran the other heroics WAY too many times already, and at least I can get 3-4 crystal if I'm lucky in trolls run.
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