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KatieJo
I was late to the WoW party by a couple of years. Up until maybe a six months ago I never had a toon that was leveled out. I had ran old content both by myself and with a small group, but with the intent getting an achievement or extra gold. As we all know if you can solo it, and you run it with a group of friends the roles don't matter.
When my main reached 85, I stared asking around what I needed to run the new heroics, my guild helped me out a lot. What add-ons would help, Vent, and where to do some research. All very helpful...to a point. Reading how to spec is great, but experience is key. When I first started, I sucked. I am a combat rouge and didn't understand what my role was or should be...OK so it is DPS, what does that mean, what should I do, who should I help, who should I follow, ect, ect, ect. These were all questions that were left unanswered and I didn't know, that PISSED OFF anyone I grouped with. I never got kicked, but I think that was mostly due to me pairing with guildies who were willing to work with my through the rough spots, but the pugs were less then kind.
I have since got much better and I am frequently asked to run randoms as we are a casual guild and don't have a set raiding group. I know there are thing that I must work out, but I now know what my role is.
It all breaks down to this, we play WoW for the enjoyment of the game, some find PvP their thing, others enjoy the simplicity of fishing. If you queue into a group that has an obvious noob that is struggling with understanding their role in the group and what they need to do to help, lets try and help these people out with answering the questions that were never answered by do research, instead of using the party chat to complete obliterate their self-esteem.
Lets all try to remember a few things.
1. we were all noobs at one point in this game
2. WoW is a GAME.
3. Use and live by Will Wheaton's motto, "don't be a *!@#". It takes the fun out of it.
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Post by
Monday
I'm one that tries to help others, but tbh I've stopped caring after getting yet another "Shutup &*!@ing $%^&er nub #$%^er" type answer.
One can only care about helping others so much.
Post by
Cambo
One can only care about helping others so much.
I agree.
I rage-quit a guild raid on the weekend because we had another player who knew nothing of gearing or gemming for their role, kept asking very basic questions and being very annoying.
I don't mind newbs, and I welcome them. Very happy to help and provide suggestions, but if they run around and accidentally pull trash, don't pay attention and don't listen when we are taking 20mins of 9 other players time to explain to them where to stand, what to do and when to do it - that's the end of my patience.
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Arothand
As a rule I always try to be polite. I can't be mean in PuGS, even the bad ones; I've spent over an hour wiping on Jin'do (enough to where the first miniboss, the tiki mask and the wasps respawn from Venoxis) because I refuse to be "that guy" and insult everyone else/drop group. However, there's a limit. I don't mind giving advice, but when I do I do it polite - it's not "l2p your DPS is ridiculous scrub" like some people would do, but if the other person is rude back then I don't even bother - I'm not being mean in saying something, I'm giving you helpful advice as a friend would (even though we aren't friends) and getting insulted in return. When I offer advice it's never in a mean way, and it's never meant to be done as condescending, it's meant to be helpful and concerned as though I'm worried that the other person isn't doing as good as
I know they can do
(that's the impression I give)
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Post by
Miluran
WoW tip nr. X - Little kindness goes a long way.
Simply kindly asking some more experienced player, for instance from top guilds on your server, how to improve your gameplay will probably help. If nothing else they more often than not at least point you to right direction. If one doesn't, ask another. If you don't get answers from 10 guys, google is your friend, there are tons of blogs, videos, forums and whatnot explaining everything from class mechanics to boss fights in endgame content.
If you don't know your role and how to perform it well you are a liability to the chance of success for the group you are in. You talk about your fun, but what about the experience for the rest of the members of the group? I don't think anyone enjoys failing because one player has not bothered to do a bit of research to be able to pull his weight.
This. I have no problem explaining the fight to random pugs I do. It's the people who don't ask for explanation, proceed to fail and wipe the whole group that bugs me, not the minute it takes to explain the fight and nail it. Back in the Vanilla raid (40man raidgroup) days people used to say; "Your 12$ allows you to play the game in a way you wish, but the 39 other people's 468$ tell you suck it up and learn the fight."
I feel like an elitist now which wasn't my intention :x My point was that even if you're new or a casual player, and find yourself underperforming about 10 mins of studying will probably be a tremendous help. In my eyes expecting to be carried all the time is almost as wrong as being mean and going "l2p tard".
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