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Holy: Is the Denounce talent worth a crap now?
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Post by
Onijitsu
has been changed recently. You can exorcise someone, to prevent them from getting critical strikes for awhile. It appears that you could use this against both killers AND healers. And, I'm curious if any of you have tried it out.
Post by
ZombieJesus
I'm too busy being chain CC'd for a minute long to ever cast it.
Post by
pezz
Considering the duration of the debuff and the casting time of Exo if I pvp'd I wouldn't bother with it except when an enemy was using CDs.
Any mages with 3/3 shatter would be in for a surprise, though.
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Post by
Onijitsu
Aye... that is the chief benefit as I see it. I don't have much desire to run TWO Holy specs -- questing (like Firelands dailies?) is a PITA in Holy -- and so I have been running
this hybrid spec
. Created this way, because Light of Dawn is most useful in 25s, which I don't ever do, and because one point in Blessed Life can give you some extra Holy Power when you most need it in both PvP and PvE situations.
Now... if this talent possibly worked
against Bosses
in PvE... Then I might try to grab it. Imagine cutting the damage to your tank by casting Exorcism at the right times...
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Post by
Onijitsu
Now... if this talent possibly worked
against Bosses
in PvE... Then I might try to grab it. Imagine cutting the damage to your tank by casting Exorcism at the right times...
Just sayin but bosses shouldn't be critting your tank...
Sanctuary
"Reduces the chance".
Plus, Bosses don't always hit the Tank.
Post by
Monday
Now... if this talent possibly worked
against Bosses
in PvE... Then I might try to grab it. Imagine cutting the damage to your tank by casting Exorcism at the right times...
Just sayin but bosses shouldn't be critting your tank...
Sanctuary
"Reduces the chance".
That's the whole point. There's only a certain percent chance that a boss will crit the tank. You used to have to stack defense rating to reduce the chance that they would crit you to the point where you were uncrittable. Period.
Now you have talents so you don't have to stack defense rating, but taking the talent will make you uncrittable.
Post by
pezz
Now... if this talent possibly worked
against Bosses
in PvE... Then I might try to grab it. Imagine cutting the damage to your tank by casting Exorcism at the right times...
Just sayin but bosses shouldn't be critting your tank...
Sanctuary
"Reduces the chance".
Plus, Bosses don't always hit the Tank.
The chance that a mob 3 levels above you will crit you is 5.6%.
Post by
Kristopher
Now... if this talent possibly worked
against Bosses
in PvE... Then I might try to grab it. Imagine cutting the damage to your tank by casting Exorcism at the right times...
Just sayin but bosses shouldn't be critting your tank...
Sanctuary
"Reduces the chance".
Plus, Bosses don't always hit the Tank.
But bosses SHOULD always hit the tank, with melee swings at least. NPC spells can't crit, so if you're thinking to take that talent to lessen the bosses unavoidable AoE damage, you're wasting talant points.
If the bosses are hitting more than just the tank with melee swings, and you feel the need to take this talent so they don't crit on the unintended damage sponge, then you need to work out a lot of issues with your tanks and or DPS.
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Post by
greywolfsage
Now... if this talent possibly worked
against Bosses
in PvE... Then I might try to grab it. Imagine cutting the damage to your tank by casting Exorcism at the right times...
Just sayin but bosses shouldn't be critting your tank...
Sanctuary
"Reduces the chance".
Plus, Bosses don't always hit the Tank.
I have very seldom ever seen a non tank die from a boss melee hit because it crit. To talent and then cast a spell on the offchance that a non tank would be melee'd by the boss (ie the tank died or dps pulled agro) is dumb; they're going to die either way 9/10.
To piggyback off of Pezz, if a boss has a 5.6% chance to crit you and you have a 6% chance to not be crit, that makes you
uncrittable
by a boss.
The reduced crit chance effect of the talent is for PvP.
Ressurection of the Shock/Exoadin.
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341987
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Post by
aggixx
The reduced crit chance effect of the talent is for PvP.
There's still some possible PvE usages. We tried a strategy for 10m H V&T that involved having our ret taunt off the tank to soak stacks, having a holy paladin exorcism before that switch would make it pretty unlikely for your "OT" to die if well executed.
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dingbot1
Shaman tank go
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