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Post by
Atik
I'm not in favor of human or animal rights, as they are more of us fooling ourselves into thinking we are more than we are.
And public health is a tax sink.
Post by
Patty
I'm not in favor of human or animal rights, as they are more of us fooling ourselves into thinking we are more than we are.
And public health is a tax sink.
That's a little paradoxical, really. You complain about oppression - human rights are there to ensure liberty for an individual. Surely disagreeing with both is completely contradictory. With no human rights, there's no reason not to oppress others - being in favour of human rights, you're showing that you are against oppression.
Post by
Atik
When did I complain about oppression?
I only complain about the way we are oppressed.
Post by
Patty
When did I complain about oppression?
I only complain about the way we are oppressed.
You called it 'disgusting', or argued that it was at least more disgusting than masturbating. Also, define: way we are oppressed. It's rather vague.
Post by
Atik
We our oppressed by having money we earn taken from us and given to other people who didn't work for it.
We our oppressed by being told by religions to follow their teachings and worship their deities.
We are oppressed by the presence of currency and fixed prices.
We are oppressed by certain ideals such as marriage pratically being forced down our throats from birth, with people who don't get married reciving a "selfish jackass" stereotype.
Post by
Patty
We our oppressed by having money we earn taken from us and given to other people who didn't work for it.
...
We are oppressed by the presence of currency and fixed prices.
Currency = money.
We are oppressed by certain ideals such as marriage pratically being forced down our throats from birth, with people who don't get married reciving a "selfish jackass" stereotype.
I've never seen that stereotype at all. I'd really like some evidence.
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134377
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Post by
Skreeran
OH GOD MY BRAIN
Post by
Azazel
Because it's stupid to pay taxes to help each other. Especially if they go to handicapped people because omg they are just so lazy and don't work at all.
/sarcasm
Post by
Patty
OH GOD MY BRAIN
Probably sums things up best. :P
Post by
ElhonnaDS
Lol- I just caught up with the last 2 pages. I can't even imagine how he comes up with these things to say. Sometimes a troll is so entertaining, I don't even mind the trolling.
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240140
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Post by
Thror
If I didn't read that with my very eyes, I would never believe someone like that can exist.
A virgin preaching about sex.
Post by
Atik
1. I'm not retarded. Like... at all...
2. What I have described is love in what I believe to be its most perfect form. A feeling of absolute connectivity with the one you love, no words being needed. And no questions, as they lead to doubts and detroy the connection
3. The fact that it is the perfect form means there is a lot of room for compromise.
4. The reason I am so against marriage is it is paraded as some great expression of love while going against all the ways love should be expressed. Marriage is full of questions and chains.
5. It is also unnatural. Just like welfare, social security, marriage benefits, currency, health care, and all that.
6. Since things as disgusting as masterbatian are, in fact, natural; anything unnatural can only lend itself to being EVEN MORE disgusting. None of those things even belong in the natural world; they are abominations.
7. If I have to like with currency, it pisses me off to see my tax money go to things such as welfare and unemployment and social security. All of those systems are far to easily exploited. I have seen too many people get married and have children for THE SOLE REASON of government money and tax breaks. I'm sick of it.
8. Most people on disability are more than capable of doing a varying degree of jobs.
Post by
Monday
So how does something not existing in the natural world make it disgusting?
In case you didn't notice, humans are separated from the natural world by one thing: Intelligence. We have shaped the world for ourselves. Systems such as healthcare are a part of government, which is another thing that separates humans from wild animals.
Do you suggest that we live like the rest of the beats of the earth? I know I don't. I like being human, and I love the benefits that being under a human government entail.
Post by
Atik
We have shaped the world for ourselves
Chimpanzees will build upwards in order to reach tree limbs for food.
Shaping the world to suit you needs is natural.
Systems such as healthcare are a part of government, which is another thing that separates humans from wild animals.
Our major forms of government are unnatural and disgusting.
There are natural forms of it though, such as a wolf pack.
Do you suggest that we live like the rest of the beats of the earth? I know I don't. I like being human, and I love the benefits that being under a human government entail.
I actually do suggest we do. I like out technology and how united we have become as one enormous pack due to creations like the internet. But I also feel we could keep that and go back.
I'm not preaching anti-technology. Technology is natural. I'm saying we remove all the unnatural things that dictate our lives.
Post by
Monday
So why is technology natural, but government is not? You raise the following point: There are natural forms of it though, such as a wolf pack.
Wouldn't that be
un
natural though? Humans aren't wolves. Living like one would be unnatural.
Human
governments are human, however, and thus completely natural.
Post by
Skreeran
So how does something not existing in the natural world make it disgusting?This is the most mind-boggling argument he's making. I can even understand not associating marriage with love. I don't agree, but I've seen enough marriages to understand how someone could associate it with chaining people together even after they've stopped loving each other.
But something being automatically disgusting because it's not natural?
You know what's not natural? FLYING AROUND IN THE SKY INSIDE A METAL TUBE. But that doesn't make airplanes disgusting. (No, it's sitting next to smelly and/or sick people that make airplanes disgusting... :P)
Post by
Atik
So why is technology natural, but government is not? You raise the following point: There are natural forms of it though, such as a wolf pack.
Wouldn't that be
un
natural though? Humans aren't wolves. Living like one would be unnatural.
Human
governments are human, however, and thus completely natural.
Because technology exsists in nature in forms similiar to how we have it.
Governments that we are familiar with do not.
And a wolf pack is natural because it exsists in the natural world which humans have removed themselves from.
You know what's not natural? FLYING AROUND IN THE SKY INSIDE A METAL TUBE. But that doesn't make airplanes disgusting. (No, it's sitting next to smelly and/or sick people that make airplanes disgusting... :P)
Arguable.
And my arguement is as follows.
Something natural is inherently less disgusting them something unnatural.
For example, bathing is natural. Most animals bath themselves one way or another. The idea of not bathing is unnatural and disgusting, correct?
The most disgusting and natural thing I can think of is masterbation. Which is disgusting enough to make me want to hurl just thinking about it.
So if unnatural things are more disgusting than natural things, anything unnatural has to be more disgusting than masterbation.
Yes, that includes airplanes.
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