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Post by
Azazel
Atik wrote the script for Saw. :P
Post by
Atik
Atik wrote the script for Saw. :P
Ew. Those movies sucked.
Post by
Azazel
Atik wrote the script for Saw. :P
Ew. Those movies sucked.
Yet the bad guy shares a lot his beliefs with you...
Like letting the weak die for instance...
Post by
Atik
No, he leads them to their deaths. I would let them die all on their own.
Also the people are all so retarded and can't even solve the most basic of problems.
I don't remember what one it was, but there was a glass crase you could stick your hands in, but not pull them out. The girl got stuck in it.
THERE WAS A CHAIR IN THE ROOM!
Break the damn glass and be done with it. Deeeeerp...
Post by
Skreeran
Yelling accross treetops to communicate.
Building staircases and ladders to reach food in trees.
Sending sonar messages through the water.1. Yelling and cetecean communication don't qualify as "technology."
2. I've never seen an animal build a ladder, either, except humans.
Which leads to overpopulation and destruction.
And I really don't. I watched news reports on Haiti and Japan and felt nothing. I just really don't care.At least you admit it.
I wouldn't want to subscribe to your system of morality, though. I've been there, and I never want to go back.
I use my computer as a medium of communication. No different than the politicians you vote for come election day.And yet you preach about how unnatural things like computers are disgusting, while
simultaneously
talking about how you don't feel bad about human suffering.
I'm not sure if you're trying to convince anyone of anything at this point, except maybe that you're a terrible person.
I will admit, the exploiting of other countries was disgusting and unnatural. But they were the ones who couldn't stop it or deal with the aftermath. Both sides were weak, but all conflicts have a winner.
And death IS inevitable. The day we stop dying is a disgusting day indeed.Exploiting of other populations
IS NATURAL
. Animals exploit and annihilate other species, and have been for millions of years.
Welfare isn't natural. No animal species work hard only to hand over their gains to ones to lazy to work.
And through natural selection, we can overcome all those illnesses. Survivors will live to reproduce.WARFARE.
WAR
fare.
As for welfare, it wasn't put in place to help the lazy, it was put in place to help people to help people like my family after my dad got shot and couldn't work anymore.
But we don't overcome it. We run away from it, and that makes us weak.Tell that to the people who annihilated smallpox and polio and discovered germ theory and invented irrigation and surgery and antibiotics.
Post by
Atik
1. Yelling and cetecean communication don't qualify as "technology."
Medium of communications, just like telephones and computers.
2. I've never seen an animal build a ladder, either, except humans.
Chimpanzees.
And yet you preach about how unnatural things like computers are disgusting, while simultaneously talking about how you don't feel bad about human suffering.
Computers are a medium of communications.
There really isn't a reason I can find to feel bad about people I don't know...
Exploiting of other populations IS NATURAL. Animals exploit and annihilate other species, and have been for millions of years.
I've never heard of a pack of wolves forcing another into servitude due to theit different fur colors.
WARFARE. WARfare.
My bad. And yes, warfare is natural. I have no problems with that.
As for welfare, it wasn't put in place to help the lazy, it was put in place to help people to help people like my family after my dad got shot and couldn't work anymore
Most people on welfare and disability have multiple job oppurtunities open to them.
Tell that to the people who annihilated smallpox and polio and discovered germ theory and invented irrigation and surgery and antibiotics.
Wich is the opposit of the preservation you wanted.
We destroy and run away from nature, rather than letting it guide us through natural selection.
Post by
Patty
Most people on welfare and disability have multiple job oppurtunities open to them.
With a tough economic climate...
yeah
no.
Post by
Skreeran
We destroy and run away from nature, rather than letting it guide us through natural selection.And thus it becomes apparent that I'm wasting my time.
Natural selection shapes species by
killing
individuals. It got us to where we are now, but it's a cruel, cruel system. Any feeling human being wouldn't base their morality on natural selection.
Post by
OverZealous
Humans, when thrown back into the natural world, have completely suppressed their baseline instincts. This prevents them from surviving.
It is true that humans, when left without technology in a hostile environment (think Antarctica or the rainforests) will have difficulties. Most of us, I'd say 8/10, possibly 9/10, would die within 48 hours. Some of us would survive for a while. Precious few would survive indefinitely. However, mankind is no longer quite part of the animal world. We are separate, and that's an objective observation. Evolution has allowed us to develop, and evolution is the most natural thing in the whole world.
Keep telling yourself that we are equal to every other animal if it makes you feel better, but we really are not.
As has been pointed out, you have idealized nature as a concept where everything is good and fair - however that is all but totally incorrect. Nature
is
cruel by definition, and we (as in the human race) have developed the means to defend ourself. Our means of defense and survival happen to be technological, so when rid of it, we are near-defenseless.
But the same goes for all forms of life. When rid of your means of survival, you are defenseless. How do you think a lion would fare if it had its talons and teeth removed?
I also find it interesting that you view masturbation as unnatural - because it
is
a
natural
, biological process. There are animals who masturbate, and all animals are natural, yes? Please explain to us all how something can be both natural and unnatural at the same time, since you know - they are each others' counterparts.
Also - your argument that the people starving in Africa are weak and have forgotten how to be natural makes no sense.
At all
. You know, whatsoever. Many of the affected africans live much closer to nature than you are likely to ever have. There is no food.
That
is why they are starving. Not because they are weak and have grown to be unnatural. That you dare say such a thing while sitting by your computer astonishes me.
The children of Africa have become weak because of the massive starvation on the continent,
not
the other way around. I would think that is apparent. If you did not have food, do you think you'd be feeling allright after a day? A week? A
month
?
I'm sorry for coming across as hostile, because I know I am, but your argument is flawed and some of your worldviews quite bother me.
Edit: And Atik - I have a friend who has been starving in Africa. He was near death and only lived because of the goodwill and charity of other humans. If you had one of your best friends starving and growing ever weaker because of lack of food - would you let him die and call Survival of the Fittest? Would you let your siblings die? Your parents? Your children? I find that extremely hard to believe - because compassion is in humans
nature
.
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173035
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Post by
Adamsm
I'm assuming he's very intelligent
Really? He comes across as nothing of the sort to me. He is almost incapable of typing more than one sentence before starting a new paragraph; he can only see black and white; he comes up with spurious analogies that make no sense, in an attempt to reduce arguments to the absurd because of his own lack of experience and knowledge in the world (e.g.: response to Skreeran's "Animals exploit each other"); the list goes on.
Plus, he's taken this thread wildly off-topic, unless I'm mistaken.
Did you read his explanation for ghosts? And where he came up with that idea from?
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91278
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Post by
Adamsm
Lol.
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296147
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Post by
Atik
I said that masterbation is disgusting and is the most unnatural seeming thing I can think of that is actually natural.
And what the hell do you mean there is no food? That VERY PHOTO Skree linked has a BIRD right the hell there.
Kill it, eat it, ?, profit.
I don't understand what is wrong with wanting to return to being what we are.
Post by
Adamsm
The only reason I can see you actually wanting to go back to the stone age times, is because you think somehow, it would mean you'd have access to a large number of women....but I really doubt that as well.
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240140
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Post by
Atik
No, I don't want stone age times either.
I just want people to accept they're animals and live like it. Rather than reject and escape the natural world, I want them to embrace it like all animals.
It leads to each individual being better suited for life. Natural selection favors those that survive the harsh nature and betters the entire species.
We live in a disgusting and unnaturally sperated world instead. And what is even worse is that if someone were to attempt to return to the natural world, they would find themselves in some sort of prison or mental facility as a threat to society; there they would be drugged up so much until they couldn't tell their hands from their asses and were FORCED to conform.
And the kid could kill the bird, or have an adult kill it.
Post by
Adamsm
.....So you want us to walk around naked, and kill things with our bare hands........when we aren't built for that. Oh, and for fun, we'd be %^&*ting and pissing wherever the hell we want, and walking in it...yeah, that's a lot of fun......
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