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Indiana curses the cursive: No more cursive writing in curriculum
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Post by
xaratherus
I think Elhonna probably has what I'd consider to be a reasonable argument for this. Simply saying that one person or another doesn't use it frequently, or at all, isn't really justification, in my opinion - but looking at school as a potential preparation for a career, I can see where there aren't really any jobs out there that list, "Be able to write in cursive" as a skill requirement.
Post by
Monday
Thank God. Cursive is completely useless, imo.
Post by
chaosultimamage
I think Elhonna probably has what I'd consider to be a reasonable argument for this. Simply saying that one person or another doesn't use it frequently, or at all, isn't really justification, in my opinion - but looking at school as a potential preparation for a career, I can see where there aren't really any jobs out there that list, "Be able to write in cursive" as a skill requirement.
Well, I don't know how it was elsewhere, but all of my teachers in like 3rd grade told us that we would be using cursive for the rest of our lives and that we would absolutely NEED it for our survival in the world. That was utter horse%^&*. I wasn't taught how to use a computer that early and that is infinitely more important in virtually every field. I wasn't taught in school how to change my oil or fix a washing machine.
Post by
xaratherus
Well, I don't know how it was elsewhere, but all of my teachers in like 3rd grade told us that we would be using cursive for the rest of our lives and that we would absolutely NEED it for our survival in the world.
Depending on how long ago that was, it could have been considered true. Cursive handwriting was sort of the "educated" standard in the United States until computers became so widely available.
Post by
chaosultimamage
Well, I don't know how it was elsewhere, but all of my teachers in like 3rd grade told us that we would be using cursive for the rest of our lives and that we would absolutely NEED it for our survival in the world.
Depending on how long ago that was, it could have been considered true. Cursive handwriting was sort of the "educated" standard in the United States until computers became so widely available.
It would've been the early 90s. And cursive wouldn't have been useful anywhere unless your job was as an English teacher. The only other job required to constantly do signatures is doctor, and they just scribble.
Post by
pnkflffytutu
Thank God. Cursive is completely useless, imo.
Pretty much. Also I stopped using cursive for everything expect signatures after 6th grade.
Post by
Squishalot
I'm somewhat amused by responses. Cursive isn't thought of as a separate thing to printing (i.e. non-cursive) here in Australia, it's just done as you grow up. You learn to join your letters, because not doing so requires you to take your pen off the page and make almost exactly the same move anyway. That's why cursive is considered faster than printing, because you don't have the unnecessary Z-axis motion.
I wouldn't advocate teaching short-hand in schools, however. Firstly - there is no truly accepted method / script for short-hand. Secondly, it's very easy to botch the meaning of short-hand for those who are either a) unfamiliar with short-hand generally, or b) unfamiliar with the particular type / abbreviations of short-hand that you might use in particular. Short-hand is not a real valid form of communication with anybody other than yourself, any moreso than a secret language is.
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138638
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Post by
Orranis
I'm literally not allowed to write anything in cursive, though to be fair I type everything because it's faster and I have bad handwriting.
Post by
Atik
That's why cursive is considered faster than printing, because you don't have the unnecessary Z-axis motion.
This is what I don't understand.
Keeping my hand down can only save me a few milliseconds at best. (I actually just tested and I can print my name faster than I sign it.) And it proves to be much more tiring and harder to read, as it can literally become a bunch of squiggles and makes spelling mistakes murderous on what you are trying to say.
So what is the point?
Post by
Squishalot
Keeping my hand down can only save me a few milliseconds at best. (I actually just tested and I can print my name faster than I sign it.)
That's probably because you're well practised at printing your name, and not at writing it cursive. Either that, or you're putting too much effort into the preciseness of your joins between letters.
And it proves to be much more tiring and harder to read, as it can literally become a bunch of squiggles and makes spelling mistakes murderous on what you are trying to say.
If you're at the state of mind where you're making spelling mistakes and creating squiggles (e.g. extremely tired / lacking sleep, rushed), then your printing is going to be equally bad, or significantly slower.
Post by
Atik
My printing is pretty bad normally:
http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j460/Logan_Emery/Logansart0012.jpg
My cursive is nearly illegible. But it is still slower than my typing, which is notably slower than when I hand write stuff. (It took me two minutes to type this post...)
Post by
Jubilee
All my letters that begin with an upstroke are connected when I print.
Post by
wolfeyoung
My printing is pretty bad normally:
http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j460/Logan_Emery/Logansart0012.jpg
What is that? I metal egg on tank tracks?
Post by
Atik
My printing is pretty bad normally:
http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j460/Logan_Emery/Logansart0012.jpg
What is that? I metal egg on tank tracks?
What else would it be?
Concept art for SC2Mapster.
Post by
Katalliaan
My cursive is fairly slow compared to my printing, and my (legible) printing is slow compared to my typing. That comes more from being taught how to properly type using a QWERTY keyboard without being able to see the keys and learning how to type fast from playing games where you can't play while typing. It makes more sense to teach the students how to type properly than how to write in cursive.
Post by
Squishalot
Question - do you guys ever have to write long essay-type questions in exam situations for schooling? For example, something that requires a 6 page written response in an hour and a half or so. If so, how often?
Post by
Jubilee
Question - do you guys ever have to write long essay-type questions in exam situations for schooling? For example, something that requires a 6 page written response in an hour and a half or so. If so, how often?
I fill up a blue book (do you have those down under?) in a half an hour maybe, unless I have to stop and think which makes it longer.
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207044
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Post by
Khorrupt
http://theoatmeal.com/blog/handwriting
Story of my life.
And they told me I would need beautiful cursive writing to graduate elementary school.
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