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Blood Death Knights Need a Serious Nerf In PVP
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818599
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Post by
Adamsm
Lots of people have said it.
Post by
Meldoron
God, is this thread still going on. I c y ppl qq about them, b/c they r stupid enough to even bother fighting them. Its like the idiots in my last bg that were focusing the stupid blood dk instead of the ret that was protecting stabs w/ him.
i can't believe i haven't seen this even said, dispell the bloody vengeance. Shiv, tranq shot, soothe dispells vengeance. tell ur druids/rogues/hunters to dispell it. it basically makes the tank worthless. or wait til 4.3.2 for blizzard to take care of it for u.
It has been said, many, many times so you obviously haven't read even one page of this thread. I do hate how some people focus on blood dk's when there are far more ideal targets to kill.
Post by
Orranis
Lots of people have said it.
Double Blood.
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538716
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Post by
cloudp
I'll just reverse the question, because I don't think Orranis is entirelly against the debaters.
Is there a reason to
keep
Vengeance in PvP? What's its purpose?
Post by
Astygia
Imo, no reason to use vengeance in pvp. The pvp tank's job is to be a pain in the ass (or survive a long time), harass, impede, CC, lock down enemy healers, and generally screw around with the enemy. Vengeance was only created as a threat-assist mechanic that's no longer really even needed. Aside from its comical use in pvp (don't attack the blood, you'll just piss him off!) it really doesn't even need to be around at all.
Post by
mouse24
Imo, no reason to use vengeance in pvp. The pvp tank's job is to be a pain in the ass (or survive a long time), harass, impede, CC, lock down enemy healers, and generally screw around with the enemy. Vengeance was only created as a threat-assist mechanic that's no longer really even needed. Aside from its comical use in pvp (don't attack the blood, you'll just piss him off!) it really doesn't even need to be around at all.
What about druid tanks? they need vengeance for there bubble, and believe me not having that is an extremely big deal... its like having only half a shield to block with as a pally
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Orranis
Imo, no reason to use vengeance in pvp. The pvp tank's job is to be a pain in the ass (or survive a long time), harass, impede, CC, lock down enemy healers, and generally screw around with the enemy. Vengeance was only created as a threat-assist mechanic that's no longer really even needed. Aside from its comical use in pvp (don't attack the blood, you'll just piss him off!) it really doesn't even need to be around at all.
What about druid tanks? they need vengeance for there bubble, and believe me not having that is an extremely big deal... its like having only half a shield to block with as a pally
Feral Survivability is extremely powerful with or without Savage Defense, and never relied on it really either way. The vast majority of it comes from passive reduction and cooldowns.
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870547
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Post by
Nelfshane
Couldn't they simply make it so that vengeance is not applied if damage is done by other players?
Post by
b4xx
4.3.2 PTR Patch Notes
World of Warcraft Patch 4.3.2
Classes
General
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Vengeance is no longer triggered by receiving damage from other players.
Post by
Rankkor
Couldn't they simply make it so that vengeance is not applied if damage is done by other players?
the can, and they did, its not gonna make a difference though.
Bad players will still be bad, no matter how many nerfs are applied to the enemies they can't beat.
Post by
Interest
Couldn't they simply make it so that vengeance is not applied if damage is done by other players?
Well this already happened.Get in to TB today, get in some randoms and the same crap is being said. Blood dks are op.
They're probably complaining about their high survivability. Nothing new though.
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588688
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Post by
Adamsm
Get in to TB today, get in some randoms and the same crap is being said. Blood dks are op.
Still? I haven't done any real pvp since the patch hit.
....He's being sarcastic; people are still gonna complain cause they are bad and lose to the Bad-Killer class.
Edit: Hell, I went up against a Blood DK yesterday on my own DK, spec'ed Unholy....and I killed him without breaking a sweat, since he kept trying to Death Strike me while I kept hitting him with Necrotic Strike so he was doing nothing but healing me instead while I took down his health.
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Orranis
Get in to TB today, get in some randoms and the same crap is being said. Blood dks are op.
Still? I haven't done any real pvp since the patch hit.
....He's being sarcastic; people are still gonna complain cause they are bad and lose to the Bad-Killer class.
Edit: Hell, I went up against a Blood DK yesterday on my own DK, spec'ed Unholy....and I killed him without breaking a sweat, since he kept trying to Death Strike me while I kept hitting him with Necrotic Strike so he was doing nothing but healing me instead while I took down his health.
he kept trying to Death Strike me while I kept hitting him with Necrotic Strike so he was doing nothing but healing me instead while I took down his health.
I kept hitting him with Necrotic Strike so he was doing nothing but healing me instead while I took down his health.
healing me
...
What?
I can't come up with a response to this and how stupid you sound. What the hell are you talking about?
Post by
Adamsm
Read the tip.
Post by
Orranis
Read the tip.
I'm completely incapable of developing a proper response that would adequately project what I'm thinking right now.
Though I did literally laugh out loud, and I don't misuse literally.
Post by
Interest
Get in to TB today, get in some randoms and the same crap is being said. Blood dks are op.
Still? I haven't done any real pvp since the patch hit.
....He's being sarcastic; people are still gonna complain cause they are bad and lose to the Bad-Killer class.
Edit: Hell, I went up against a Blood DK yesterday on my own DK, spec'ed Unholy....and I killed him without breaking a sweat, since he kept trying to Death Strike me while I kept hitting him with Necrotic Strike so he was doing nothing but healing me instead while I took down his health.
I think my brain just blew up...
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