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QOTD Thread #332- Do you think that people should keep cats outdoors?
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Post by
Rankkor
I think it's something we each see very rarely in our lives but a lot of TV (Can you believe that "Real housewives of Orange County" is actually broadcast on terrestrial TV here in the UK?) and this skews our view of society as a whole. I wonder if TV skews a lot of how we see our own society by showing us a very narrow slice of it and making us believe it's indicative of something broader...? (Though, maybe this is my own dislike of most TV programming creating a bias)
This is VERY true.
So much of our opinion is influenced by what we see in movies and TV. For example, watch the movie Mr and Ms Smith, and on that scene where they meet in Bogota, its shown as a very hot place, with a lot of violence. Real Life Bogota (That's Colombia) is actually a pretty cold area, and its actually one of the places with the lowest crime-rate on this part of the world. But we've been told by TV that ALL of latin america is scolding hot, and full of cartels, so this is the image we have in our heads about it, even if its far from the truth.
Even my beloved Venezuela has this. True, there are 4 states that are VERY hot (Zulia, New Sparta, Falcon, and Cumana) but most of the country actually has a cool weather (Caracas, San Cristobal, Barinas, ect) and 3 states are actually DAMNED COLD AS FRICK (Valencia, Merida, and Trujillo)
However, every single depiction of Venezuela in ANY medium (Be it books, movies, or videogames) peg it as a jungle country, full of an extremely hot weather.
So media-created bias IS prevalent and could skew our view of how wide-spread self-entitlement really is. For all we know, it could be quite low across the globe.
And you still didn't told me what curmudgeonly means >_<(##RESPBREAK##)16##DELIM##asakawa##DELIM##cur·mudg·eon
/kərˈməjən/
Noun
A bad-tempered or surly person.
An ill-tempered (and frequently old) person full of stubborn ideas or opinions.
There's a cranky curmudgeon working at the hospital who gives all the patients and other doctors flak. (AKA Doctor House)
John Doe's old age and stubborn aversion to new ideas make him a curmudgeon of a candidate.
Good word eh?
Post by
OverZealous
I think that media, TV in particular, makes us see people and society as a whole in a bad light. This goes for everyone. Of course there are little entitled brats, but I reckon there have always been - we just see them more with all the TV shows that give them all the attention in the world.
Post by
HiVolt
As far as luxuries go, yes, I think we have become more entitled. But, as far as necessities go, I feel that every human being has always been entitled to those, even if those entitlements are not now or have not always been enforced by law. Food, water, shelter, medical care, due process, etc. Those, in my opinion, every person deserves no matter the circumstance.
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557473
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Post by
gamerunknown
Sure, after the second world war a bunch of countries got representatives together and declared that healthcare, living wages, food, clothing, assistance for the elderly and unemployed, education and marriage are human rights. Every country in the world is signed up to that notion. Some members of some of the signatory countries consider these things entitlements. A few hundred years before that, after the revolutionary war, a bunch of people sat down and wrote a constitution which included term limits and a provision to provide for the general welfare. After much discussion, they decided to append a bill of rights to the constitution which included concepts such as the freedom of speech and the freedom from troops being garrisoned in people's homes. You can guarantee that some people considered such things entitlements then. A few hundred years before that, a bunch of nobles at Runnymede forced some guy to say that every non-serf was entitled to the protection of the law. Again, just an entitlement before that signing.
So yeah, but not necessarily a bad thing.
Ed: FWIW, I'm a vegetarian and I ordered a vegetarian pizza at a restaurant once. They brought me a meat one. I just ate it. Figured it had already been made, didn't want to get the server in trouble.
Post by
asakawa
Ed: FWIW, I'm a vegetarian and I ordered a vegetarian pizza at a restaurant once. They brought me a meat one. I just ate it. Figured it had already been made, didn't want to get the server in trouble.
Really? Quite aside from the vegetarian issue, if I was brought something I didn't order then I wouldn't accept it. I wouldn't kick up a fuss or demand the employee lose their job or anything, but I would definitely ask for what I ordered. Mistakes happen and it's not a big deal but as a customer it's fair to expect to only pay for what you order.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
#282 Would you want to live with your parents indefinitely?
In the current economy in a lot of countries, rent and housing costs are pretty high, and employment is hard to find for many people. In some cultures, extended family live together and share responsibilities of keeping the house clean, raising children, cooking, etc. Would you, if there was no social stigma attached to it and if your parents wanted you to, move back home to share expenses and live there indefinitely, either alone or with your spouse and eventually children?
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Post by
Thror
I am 23 and I do not live with my mom anymore. I always wanted to separate as soon as possible. It helped my relationship with her tremendously.
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240140
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Post by
asakawa
I moved out at 18 when I went to university and went straight from there to living with my (now) wife. Both of our sets of parents are awesome but it would be a massive strain if we had to live with either. Do not want.
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Post by
Rankkor
Not really. Property costs are ABSURDLY HIGH in venezuela, so its not that uncommon to have up to 3 generations of the same family living under the same house.
When my parents got married, and had me and my little brother, we lived on our grandparent's house till I was like 12. And not just them.
My grandparents had a grand total of 15 kids. Out of which 8 got married and still lived in the same house. :P Imagine growing up with 7 uncles and aunts, grandpa and grandma, plus 40+ cousins, plus parents, and sibling under the same roof. xD
We still managed, and slowly we all began moving out as soon as we could find our own place. I got lucky to find this apartment, and even if it is a small concrete box, its MY concrete box.
I don't see it as a "stigma" to live with your parents, but I do feel that its an important step to "leave the nest" and take your own responsibilities. Its an important rite of passage into adulthood. As much as I love my parents, moving out was a big step for me, and I did not proposed to Reina till I had assured me a home for ourselves.
Of course, pride is not an obstacle, if me or my parents hit a rough spot and we can't afford the bills by ourselves anymore and we had to live together, we would, without any problems. Likewise, statistically speaking, women tend to outlive men, so going by statistics, its very probable that my dad will pass away long before my mom. When that happens, I'll take my mom into the apartment with us.
You wouldn't pay me a million bucks to live with Reina's parents though >_> Her mom is great and I like her, but her dad is both a PCV supporter, and a major A-grade A-hole.
Post by
Rystrave
I would love to live with my dad indefinitely; I'm a total daddy's girl. Plus, all the delicious venison, walleye, and elk he eats everyday would never get old.
The only downside is my dad doesn't believe in the internet. Well, it's not that he doesn't believe in it, he just absolutely refuses to give it a chance. Before my mommy passed away, I remember her trying to teach my dad how to work it and he goes "%^&* this, I'm going back to my rotary phone and PBS." lol
Post by
gnomerdon
this is a cultural thing.
alot of people welcome the idea of parents living with them. u can raise 5-6 kids, and ur parents will watch over them while u and ur wife works.
imagine a couple that lives with their parents. they pay 1/3 of the mortgage and the utilities. they collectively make 65,000 a year. most of that oney they make goes to luxury things instead of bills. they own 7 cars, and a lot more.
it's just really frowned upon in America and some other countries. if you have a family of 6. everyone should pitch in 300 a month to pay the mortgage of a 20 acre land. 1800 a month with all the land in the world. u can put houses there, anything.
working together as a family or with best friends is one way to acquire wealth. whereas if you and ur spouse live alone and raise kids, if you make 4,000 a month, about 3,600 will be spent on bills, you will only have 400 to spend, which burns faster than you really think.
edit: if ur talking about all family members living under the same roof, then that's a different story.
story of my mom...
Post by
Haxzor
I'm living at home with my brother. My mother has effectively moved out.
#winning
Post by
lonewolfe31705
282: Not only no, but HELL NO.
I had to move back in with my mother when she was sick and it was the most god awful experience I have ever had. Imagine the nagging you get growing up, but now add nagging about adult things.
I would never live with my parents again.
Post by
Interest
Ahahahahaha.
No.
Post by
gamerunknown
I get on pretty well with my parents and will have to move back in with them while I look for a job after uni. I won't mind helping with their mortgage as my dad's work hours are being reduced. However, the job I want is about 200 miles away from them. My parents are also quite Catholic, so the unlikely event of getting into a relationship would cause some problems if I were living at home.
My friend is a personal instructor living at home at 24, saving a load of money. His friend works for GlaxoSmithKline and didn't move out until 27. So no rush really for those that want to get a good financial backing.
Though, that said, another friend of mine worked from about age 16 (for a garden centre and a phone store, plus he qualified as a community support officer) and saved enough money to put a deposit down on a house, which he's fitted himself. His parents then decided to move in with
him
rather than pay rent and he's now taking an automotive engineering degree.
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