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DOTD - Debate of The Day #52
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Post by
FatalHeaven
How about boxing, MMA, normal martial arts, etc.?
WWF?
These, yes I would say can promote violence.
Post by
Squishalot
The reason I bring it up is because my girlfriend and I were discussing this exact question - whether esports like COD and BF and normal 'sports' like boxing, MMA, WWF encourage anti-social / violent behaviour, due to a) the desensitisation of kids to violence, and b) the fact that kids start to glorify the violent behaviour of the participants.
Personally, I feel like I can draw fairly clear boundary lines between fiction and non-fiction, but she thinks that the average kid isn't able to do that. She's got the psychology degree though, so I can't really argue with her :)
Post by
FatalHeaven
She's got the psychology degree though, so I can't really argue with her.
And how do you
feel
about that? *Takes Notes* :-P
Post by
Noxychu
I smacked myself in the face with a hockey stick in high school, does that count?
Post by
164232
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Post by
Adamsm
but they are not promoting that it is acceptable in general bahaviour.
Except for possibly hockey and WWE heh.
Post by
FatalHeaven
This can almost be related back to Question 1.
Is (insert relevant fast food giant) responsible for obesity?
The question wasn't so much about who to blame for 'junk-food diets' so much as does the advertising have an influence. Same with this question... If I go outside and body slam somebody, that was my own doing. Do I blame boxing or MMA? Certainly not... But would I have the knowledge of how to properly perform such an action having never seen those sports? Probably not. So, do I believe it causes violence? Maybe yes, maybe no. But does it promote it? Certainly. It says 'Hey this is cool. Look at how strong and capable I am.' Then people watch them, learn the moves and the next time they get into a fight, they try to use those moves. Did MMA cause the fight? No. But did it promote and provide knowledge, in my opinion yes.
Post by
FatalHeaven
I smacked myself in the face with a hockey stick in high school, does that count?
Did the hockey teams performance make you smack yourself in the face?
Post by
164232
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Post by
Squishalot
But are they encouraging people to go out in the street and do it? No.
I think the issue isn't a question of 'are they encouraging people', but 'is it encouraging people'. Criminals who get away from cops in high speed chases aren't actively encouraging people to do the same, but it does encourage others nonetheless.
Post by
OverZealous
No, I do not believe that sports actively encourage violence. The exceptions would possibly be MMA and boxing and similar sports, but I will not agree that soccer, basketball and hockey promotes anything of the sort. The fans tend to get violent because they feel their team should have won (/was treated injustly/insert average loser whine), but the sports themselves are not what make people violent.
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164232
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Post by
Squishalot
But are they encouraging people to go out in the street and do it? No.
I think the issue isn't a question of 'are they encouraging people', but 'is it encouraging people'. Criminals who get away from cops in high speed chases aren't actively encouraging people to do the same, but it does encourage others nonetheless.
Killing yourself by crashing at high speed running from the cops doesn't act as a discourage?
I meant the guys who get away. You're missing the point.
Post by
gamerunknown
Minimal group paradigm, intergroup discrimination. EnigmaPunch is displaying the fundamental attribution error.
Obligatory Chomsky
.
Banning tabacco companies from advertising did not prevent people from smoking.
Doing such wasn't it's
intended effect
. If advertising didn't work, why do people continue to expend great amounts of money and effort doing it?
Post by
134377
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Post by
Thror
The best way to sum up my thoughts about this debate question is: Overprotectiveness is a pretty stupid thing.
If anything, sports are great because they harness our natural aggressivity.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
I would say most sports are fine- playing a competitive sport, in which there is physical contact, isn't the same as being violent towards someone. And for most martial arts, I believe competition is based on form and points, and they don't actually harm each other, so I would say that's fine too. The only sports I'd say do foster violence are Boxing, and any kind of mixed martial arts where they are actively trying to do damage to the other person to win the fight. I think that's a really unhealthy kind of competition to have.
Post by
Jubilee
Every sport I've played has discouraged violence. Sure there might be some concern with boxing or similar sports, but if you've ever played football or soccer or most major sports, the rules are set up to make sure that people are discouraged from making violent and possibly harmful plays, and the penalties for performing dangerous plays are usually pretty severe.
Post by
Ksero
I would say some sports (WWE, MMA, Boxing, Lacrosse, Hockey to an extent) do encourage violence, but the question says "too much violence," and to that i answer no, because all of these sports have regulations. You see someone get knocked out, the person who knocked them out doesn't keep hitting them after, and if they do they get fined or suspended from whatever league they are in.
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